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can someone explain the logic of going for 2 down by 21?
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:48 pm
can someone explain the logic of going for 2 down by 21 points late in the game?
was that BK idea to give them an excuse to just give up trying at that point?
making it does nothing at all to help you, missing it turns a 3 score game, into a 4 score game, when you are the one needing points.
did he somehow think, getting that 2 points would suddenly make his team play better, knowing they could now win, rather than just tie, if they get 2 more onside kicks and score 2 more TDs?
its like BK said let me just throw in the towel right now with 10 minutes still left in the 4th quarter
was that BK idea to give them an excuse to just give up trying at that point?
making it does nothing at all to help you, missing it turns a 3 score game, into a 4 score game, when you are the one needing points.
did he somehow think, getting that 2 points would suddenly make his team play better, knowing they could now win, rather than just tie, if they get 2 more onside kicks and score 2 more TDs?
its like BK said let me just throw in the towel right now with 10 minutes still left in the 4th quarter
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Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:49 pm to keakar
Down by 15
Go for 2 to be down by 13
If AM gets a FG to be up 16
We only need two TDs with two 2 point conversions to tie
Go for 2 to be down by 13
If AM gets a FG to be up 16
We only need two TDs with two 2 point conversions to tie
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:50 pm to keakar
Made no sense.
Just glad he went for 2 against Alabama.
Just glad he went for 2 against Alabama.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:50 pm to keakar
We were down by 15, and the thought process is that if we get the two A&M can get another field goal and it still be a two possession game.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:50 pm to keakar
Not that I necessarily agree with it but we were down 15. Get the 2pt conversion and down 13. A&M gets a big return then has to settle for a FG we are only down 16 which is still 2 scores.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:52 pm to keakar
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its like BK said let me just throw in the towel right now with 10 minutes still left in the 4th quarter
Good lord some of you are stupid.
I believe the idea was if you cut it to 13 that way You can win with 2 TDs and PAT vs OT. Seems like it would be better to wait for the last TD but it’s not any the assinine stuff you said
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:52 pm to keakar
Shits and giggles. The game was long over with.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:52 pm to keakar
Put a bunch of nerds in a room, and they can come up with a reason that it makes sense. In football logic, you kick the extra point and tell your Def to get another 3-and-out.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:54 pm to keakar
Might have been the decider for whether to try on-side kick. If giving them a field goal still leaves a two possession game, he would have kicked on-side.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:57 pm to LSUguy2023
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Down by 15
Go for 2 to be down by 13
If AM gets a FG to be up 16
We only need two TDs with two 2 point conversions to tie
A lot of overthinking with this excuse being passed around. There was 6 minutes left. If A&M drives down and gets a field goal you’re not going to have time for two more possessions anyways after all the time they burn. You have to get a 3 and out to have a chance to win. At least a stop to get off the field without them burning too much time.
Making this strategy pointless.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 1:59 pm to The Boat
It was a stupid decision. If Jenkins catches the ball and we don’t get the two point conversion the game is lost. We would have been down 9.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 2:04 pm to The Boat
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A lot of overthinking with this excuse being passed around. There was 6 minutes left. If A&M drives down and gets a field goal you’re not going to have time for two more possessions anyways after all the time they burn. You have to get a 3 and out to have a chance to win. At least a stop to get off the field without them burning too much time.
Making this strategy pointless.
Agreed. I don't think that was part of the number crunching.
My best guess is that there are analytics somewhere that show a team converts 50% of their 2-pt attempts.
The assumption being that we would score again and have another attempt if the first fails.
That's all I got.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 2:05 pm to keakar
Go back and rewatch it. We were down by 2 TDs at the point. Had we kicked the extra point we were down by 14.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 2:07 pm to LSUguy2023
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Go for 2 to be down by 13
Yep…this.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 2:09 pm to keakar
It was a dumb and panicked decision. Not the first time we see that kind of nonsense when the pressure is on.
This post was edited on 11/27/22 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 11/27/22 at 2:11 pm to keakar
LSU had momentum.
If you make the 2 you can win with 2 tds and extra points.
What confused me was they went to the pass when the run had been working on that drive.
If you make the 2 you can win with 2 tds and extra points.
What confused me was they went to the pass when the run had been working on that drive.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 2:15 pm to rds dc
Telling your defense to get a three and out is what you do in either case.
Going for two was the correct call. To put it in simplest terms it maximizes your chances of getting that one extra point you need. Obviously if you decide you're going to go for overtime you never go for two in that situation or in the subsequent hypothetical touchdowns. But if you know you're going for a winning regulation, you do it right away.
Going for two was the correct call. To put it in simplest terms it maximizes your chances of getting that one extra point you need. Obviously if you decide you're going to go for overtime you never go for two in that situation or in the subsequent hypothetical touchdowns. But if you know you're going for a winning regulation, you do it right away.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 2:19 pm to The Boat
It's not overthinking. Obviously if you don't stop them on their next possession it no longer matters. But there is zero benefit in not maximizing your chances to get the one to point conversion you're going to need if you DO stop them twice.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 2:22 pm to FriscoTiger
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It was a stupid decision. If Jenkins catches the ball and we don’t get the two point conversion the game is lost. We would have been down 9.
And if you score three touchdowns unanswered, which is exactly what we needed, and kick the PAT twice and don't get the two points on the final touchdown the game is lost.
You can construct ways to lose the game based on any moment in which you go for two in that situation. What you have to do is think about how to maximize Your chances of getting 22 points out of three touchdowns. You do not maximize those chances by waiting until the final touchdown.
Posted on 11/27/22 at 2:24 pm to LSUguy2023
quote:far too little time left for this scenario to play out.
Down by 15
Go for 2 to be down by 13
If AM gets a FG to be up 16
We only need two TDs with two 2 point conversions to tie
The smart play was to kick the PAT to go down by 7. Another TD and PAT ties it.
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