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Can LSU afford to fire its current defensive staff and hire new ones?
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:50 am
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:50 am
LSU football makes money. I get it. But everyone has a budget.
And I think the answer to my topic question is no.
LSU still owes Ed Orgeron $6M ($750K to be paid by Dec 15) over the next two years.
Matt House has $4.1M left on his contract through 2025.
So that’s $10M by the end of 2025 needed to be paid out.
Jimmy Lindsey will make $800K in 2024. Robert Steeples and Cooks $500K in 2024. Jancek another ~$400K.
So you’re at approximately $13M over the next two years to tell your current defensive staff to go away.
Then you have to buy out your new staff from its current job (unless contract language allows for them to leave in getting a promotion).
But you’re not hiring a college position coach to come be your next DC.
You’re looking at approximately $20M (including O’s remaining pay) over the next two years to revamp your defensive staff if you choose to fire coaches.
In short, LSU has to wait to allow for its current staffers to either find new jobs (and LSU pays the difference in salaries since they were forced out), OR you hire coaches who are currently unemployed and don’t require a buyout.
Current DC candidates not on staff anywhere include Jim Leonhard and Geoff Collins come to mind off the top of my head. I’m sure there are others.
And I think the answer to my topic question is no.
LSU still owes Ed Orgeron $6M ($750K to be paid by Dec 15) over the next two years.
Matt House has $4.1M left on his contract through 2025.
So that’s $10M by the end of 2025 needed to be paid out.
Jimmy Lindsey will make $800K in 2024. Robert Steeples and Cooks $500K in 2024. Jancek another ~$400K.
So you’re at approximately $13M over the next two years to tell your current defensive staff to go away.
Then you have to buy out your new staff from its current job (unless contract language allows for them to leave in getting a promotion).
But you’re not hiring a college position coach to come be your next DC.
You’re looking at approximately $20M (including O’s remaining pay) over the next two years to revamp your defensive staff if you choose to fire coaches.
In short, LSU has to wait to allow for its current staffers to either find new jobs (and LSU pays the difference in salaries since they were forced out), OR you hire coaches who are currently unemployed and don’t require a buyout.
Current DC candidates not on staff anywhere include Jim Leonhard and Geoff Collins come to mind off the top of my head. I’m sure there are others.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 7:54 am
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Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:53 am to MrWiseGuy
Yes
Posted on 12/3/23 at 7:57 am to MrWiseGuy
Can LSU afford not to is the bigger question…
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:05 am to MrWiseGuy
Wait, Matt house has two more years left on his deal?
I didn't realize they gave him an extension.
I didn't realize they gave him an extension.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:08 am to MrWiseGuy
I think Matt House stays and they change position coaches. People will throw big tantrums over this.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:14 am to MrWiseGuy
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But everyone has a budget.
true........however, some budgets have a certain $$ coming in and that wont change, whereas some budgets have influence from donors etc. so then the question becomes, does the right influential donor step up and say make it happen? i don't know, but i wish i was in a position to have that asked of me.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:15 am to tiggerthetooth
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I think Matt House stays and they change position coaches.
This
quote:
People will throw big tantrums over this.
And this.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:19 am to MrWiseGuy
LSU needs to stop over paying for average coaches
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:20 am to tiggerthetooth
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I think Matt House stays and they change position coaches. People will throw big tantrums over this.
That is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It will be Kelly’s undoing.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:24 am to 314stunna
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LSU needs to stop over paying for average coaches
Joe Sloan is going to need a raise. Slated to make $650K in 2024 and is the key recruiter in (potentially) getting Bryce Underwood to your school
The problem is House’s inflated salary (top 5 paid DC in the country) and Orgeron’s buyout money.
Mulkey just got a raise. Jay Johnson is up for a raise.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:36 am to MrWiseGuy
Woody can find money when needed. He’s done this too many times, he also wants an ROI.
You might remember this one:
Kim Mulkey won't make more at LSU than she did at Baylor, Tigers AD says
Tim Buckley
Lafayette Daily Advertiser
New LSU coach Kim Mulkey’s has one of the richest contracts in women’s college basketball. The deal is similar to what Mulkey made at Baylor.
The LSU Board of Supervisors’ athletic committee gave its stamp of approval Thursday morning to terms of the contract, which is laden with incentive clauses. Mulkey agreed to an eight-year, $23.6 million package, according to records obtained by USA TODAY last week.
“Essentially her contract was the exact same contract that she had at Baylor," LSU athletics director Scott Woodward told committee members before contract terms were approved. "I couldn’t ask her to take less, obviously, with her incredible career and incredible record. But she understood what we had here and how badly we wanted her, and she took the exact same thing that she had at Baylor."
According to tax records obtained by USA TODAY, Mulkey made more than $3 million in 2019, including about $600,000 in bonuses. But otherwise it's not clear exactly how Mulkey's contract at Baylor lines up with her new deal at LSU.
You might remember this one:
Kim Mulkey won't make more at LSU than she did at Baylor, Tigers AD says
Tim Buckley
Lafayette Daily Advertiser
New LSU coach Kim Mulkey’s has one of the richest contracts in women’s college basketball. The deal is similar to what Mulkey made at Baylor.
The LSU Board of Supervisors’ athletic committee gave its stamp of approval Thursday morning to terms of the contract, which is laden with incentive clauses. Mulkey agreed to an eight-year, $23.6 million package, according to records obtained by USA TODAY last week.
“Essentially her contract was the exact same contract that she had at Baylor," LSU athletics director Scott Woodward told committee members before contract terms were approved. "I couldn’t ask her to take less, obviously, with her incredible career and incredible record. But she understood what we had here and how badly we wanted her, and she took the exact same thing that she had at Baylor."
According to tax records obtained by USA TODAY, Mulkey made more than $3 million in 2019, including about $600,000 in bonuses. But otherwise it's not clear exactly how Mulkey's contract at Baylor lines up with her new deal at LSU.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:40 am to MrWiseGuy
quote:
LSU still owes Ed Orgeron $6M ($750K to be paid by Dec 15) over the next two years.
You lost all credibility when you threw this in there to inflate the total expenditure
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:48 am to SloaneRanger
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That is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It will be Kelly’s undoing.
Not necessarily. They have a deficiency in personnel and obviously Kelly needs to find better recruiters.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:53 am to SloaneRanger
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That is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. It will be Kelly’s undoing.
Guess this looked good to you, when you typed it?
Kelly will be at LSU for a while. Been a while since we’ve had a responsible AD.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:58 am to LSUDad
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Guess this looked good to you, when you typed it?
I really don't give a frick how it looks. All I know is that House is a complete frick up of a DC. Did you happen to watch any LSU football this year? I believe that if House stays with the program as DC things are going to get very ugly very fast in Baton Rouge.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:13 am to MrWiseGuy
Yes, I am not sure who it was that published it but there was a article done right before the season about athletic depts around the country and who had the most money it could tap into that wasn't generated by the program. It was done by donations and LSU was 6th in the nation. So this notion that is always parroted by the dumb asses like Matt Mascona and Culotta is bullshite. The money is available if their is a need.
This post was edited on 12/3/23 at 9:14 am
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:21 am to LSUDad
quote:sure worked out well for him before
Woody can find money when needed
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:27 am to LSUDad
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“Essentially her contract was the exact same contract that she had at Baylor," LSU athletics director Scott Woodward told committee members before contract terms were approved. "I couldn’t ask her to take less, obviously, with her incredible career and incredible record. But she understood what we had here and how badly we wanted her, and she took the exact same thing that she had at Baylor."
Make no mistake Kim Mulkey let it be known that someone should get in touch with her.
Go to the 7:00 minute mark and then the 13:00 minute mark and listen. She absolutely unofficially / officially sent the word out. There is no way this was a accident.
LINK
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:29 am to FearlessFreep
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sure worked out well for him before
For the 100th time, it was Ross Bjork that extended Jimbo with the mega-deal and buyout.
Woodward and the A&M board of regents brought in Fisher with a 10yr/$75million deal before the 2018 season.
Scott Woodward left A&M for LSU in 2019.
In 2021, the new A&M AD, Ross Bjork, extended Jimbo for 4 years and raised his salary to $9M/year.
Posted on 12/3/23 at 9:47 am to tiggerthetooth
quote:youre acting as though this was a reasonable and fiscally prudent decision
Woodward and the A&M board of regents brought in Fisher with a 10yr/$75million deal before the 2018 season.
bought out Sumlin and his staff upwards of $15 million in 2018, while simultaneously hiring Fisher and handing him the richest 100% guaranteed contract in CFB history
turned around and one-upped it with BK’s even more ridiculous deal, on the heels of blowing another $20+ million on the Rosy Finch Boyz
yeah, he’ll find the money - and throw it all in the shitter again
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