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re: Caleb Hammer goes off on Louisiana couple on EBT with over 100K income.

Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by wareaglepete
Siberia
Member since Dec 2012
20199 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:12 pm to
How were they able to do that? Just curious.
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Posted by GuhGuh1
Member since Aug 2026
117 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:12 pm to
They were probably already in the system prior to making that much and just never got off the welfare. Just another way of grifting by a certain demographic. That certain demographic includes white trash too.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
142969 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:13 pm to
If we just eliminated govt fraud at all levels, we could cut spending and lower taxes by 25% at least.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
17603 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:14 pm to
they have classes that teach them how to do this. typically through community churches
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
42043 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:28 pm to
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A coworker once told me it's also a thing to get married but never actually make it paperwork official, so that the lower earner can still claim benefits. It's fraud.


Social marriages

It’s not really fraud. Is it taking advantage of the system? Absolutely. But playing the game is not fraud.

It’s why the welfare system needs a rebuild
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22536 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:31 pm to
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How were they able to do that? Just curious.

She admitted that when she was pregnant, 2 1/2 years before filming, that she just reported herself & kid(s) in the household. They claim the husband was making ~$50k then, but he was not claimed on the application.

Probably one of those things that would get picked up if the systems actually talked to each other. To avoid it, the husband/boyfriend would need to file a separate return to help hide the income and use a different address. Of course, using a different address could put the person that lives at that house in jeopardy for losing their benefits.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22536 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

quote:

A coworker once told me it's also a thing to get married but never actually make it paperwork official, so that the lower earner can still claim benefits. It's fraud.

Social marriages

It’s not really fraud. Is it taking advantage of the system? Absolutely. But playing the game is not fraud.

The system asks for household income. Even if they are not married and are living together, they need to combine all of the income earned in that household. Failing to do so would make it fraud.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37808 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:38 pm to
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Caleb used to post here as wikitiger.

Did well in Bitcoin and leveraged into this career




If Wiki had just 1000 Bitcoin and sold half at 50k he would have pretax cleared 25 million.

Assuming he bought more than a thousand he presumably did substantially better
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
62064 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:41 pm to
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they need to combine all of the income earned in that household. Failing to do so would make it fraud.
Not correct. They only have to combine all the income if they file as Married.

Other filing status, the Household Income is the filer and dependent income.

For purposes of these forms, it is not the income of all people under the roof, claiming the address as their home address.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10852 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:46 pm to
Meh, they are paying much more than $500 per month in income tax.

They are still net payers of income tax.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
22536 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 1:48 pm to
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Not correct. They only have to combine all the income if they file as Married.

Jumping around to a couple of sites, and it appears we are both partially incorrect.
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SNAP defines a household based on who purchases and prepares meals together, not just who lives at the same address.

If you live with an unmarried partner, roommate, or boyfriend/girlfriend, you can apply as a separate household if you buy, cook, and store your food separately from them. In this case, you do not include their income.

When You Do Have to Include Them: You must include your unmarried partner's income and count them in your SNAP household if:
• You share and buy/prepare food together.
• You have children together and live together (mandatory grouping rules often apply to parents and minor children).
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
62064 posts
Posted on 10/16/26 at 2:09 pm to
Interesting.

You will find different criteria for Medicaid, WIC, and Obamacare. Lord knows what else
This post was edited on 10/16/26 at 2:09 pm
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