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re: Burrow starting at 4th on the depth chart
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:05 pm to ACADIATIGER
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:05 pm to ACADIATIGER
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Don't be surprised if another QB starts and Burrow comes in on the third or so series. We don't know what Orgeron "guaranteed" to any of the returning quarterbacks in order to keep them from transferring.
That sounds reasonable.
In an opening game vs. a top 10 opponent LSU is essentially going to sacrifice the first quarter to appease a backup QB and then throw in a guy who has never started a college game (Burrow) in the 2nd quarter and say "go be great"? Ed could probably get away with that against Southeastern. He doesn't have enough clout to pull such silly shite vs. Miami. Doing that could dig himself an insurmountable hole ALL for the sake of making a backup QB happy.
Ed is going to play politics with public statements. He'll say there is a "competition". Internally though, Burrow is your starter unless he is injured or is OVERWHELMINGLY outplayed in fall camp. The simple truth is that Burrow is not at LSU if he isn't the starter. He could have continued to hold a clipboard at OSU or any number of power conference programs.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 1:07 pm
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:15 pm to Alt26
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In an opening game vs. a top 10 opponent LSU is essentially going to sacrifice the first quarter to appease a backup QB and then throw in a guy who has never started a college game (Burrow) in the 2nd quarter and say "go be great"? Ed could probably get away with that against Southeastern. He doesn't have enough clout to pull such silly shite vs. Miami. Doing that could dig himself an insurmountable hole ALL for the sake of making a backup QB happy.
Exactly. That would be stupidity. Then again...
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Ed is going to play politics with public statements. He'll say there is a "competition". Internally though, Burrow is your starter unless he is injured or is OVERWHELMINGLY outplayed in fall camp. The simple truth is that Burrow is not at LSU if he isn't the starter. He could have continued to hold a clipboard at OSU or any number of power conference programs.
One potential problem I see is what happens if McMillan simply practices better than anyone else? Brandon Harris was a beast in practice.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:43 pm to Alt26
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In an opening game vs. a top 10 opponent LSU is essentially going to sacrifice the first quarter to appease a backup QB and then throw in a guy who has never started a college game (Burrow) in the 2nd quarter and say "go be great"? Ed could probably get away with that against Southeastern. He doesn't have enough clout to pull such silly shite vs. Miami. Doing that could dig himself an insurmountable hole ALL for the sake of making a backup QB happy.
Ed is going to play politics with public statements. He'll say there is a "competition". Internally though, Burrow is your starter unless he is injured or is OVERWHELMINGLY outplayed in fall camp. The simple truth is that Burrow is not at LSU if he isn't the starter. He could have continued to hold a clipboard at OSU or any number of power conference programs
I know his public comments are for show & I expect Burrow to start. But, we are talking about a guy ( Orgeron) who has questionable qualifications to be a HC. My point is its possible he promised to give one, if not all, the returning QBs every opportunity to be the starter which may include starting on Sept 2nd.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:08 pm to luciouslou
177th downvote from me. 
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:18 pm to Goldrush25
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One potential problem I see is what happens if McMillan simply practices better than anyone else? Brandon Harris was a beast in practice
I mean it COULD happen I suppose, but it's not like McMillan is a newcomer. This is his 4th year in the program and Steve Ensminger has been on the coaching staff all 4 years. You would think they kind of have an idea of what he looks like in practice by now. He wasn't an unknown commodity in practice, yet O and (presumably) Ensminger felt it necessary to push hard for a grad transfer...one that was CLEARLY looking to start rather than just "compete for the job".
And it's also not like LSU has been setting the world on fire at the QB position for the last 4 years. Presumably, it the coaching staff felt McMillian could improve the position, they would have already played him by now.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:18 pm to ACADIATIGER
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We don't know what Orgeron "guaranteed" to any of the returning quarterbacks in order to keep them from transferring.
he guaranteed them the same thing he guaranteed Burrow, the chance to compete.
you must be a simpleton if you really believe he promised one of them they would be the starter against Miami if they didn't transfer.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:21 pm to ACADIATIGER
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I know his public comments are for show & I expect Burrow to start. But, we are talking about a guy ( Orgeron) who has questionable qualifications to be a HC. My point is its possible he promised to give one, if not all, the returning QBs every opportunity to be the starter which may include starting on Sept 2nd.
If this is a true race, then he'd better be prepared to start whoever performs the best in practice. Otherwise he'd probably have a locker room problem if say McMillan consistently performs the best in practice but he gives the nod to Burrow because that's what he wanted to do in the first place.
I guess I believe what a lot of people believe, that this is for show and he assumes Burrow will look the best. What if Burrow doesn't look the best? O isn't the best at reacting to the unexpected.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:39 pm to Alt26
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I mean it COULD happen I suppose, but it's not like McMillan is a newcomer. This is his 4th year in the program and Steve Ensminger has been on the coaching staff all 4 years. You would think they kind of have an idea of what he looks like in practice by now. He wasn't an unknown commodity in practice, yet O and (presumably) Ensminger felt it necessary to push hard for a grad transfer...one that was CLEARLY looking to start rather than just "compete for the job".
And it's also not like LSU has been setting the world on fire at the QB position for the last 4 years. Presumably, it the coaching staff felt McMillian could improve the position, they would have already played him by now
Well you're making my point for me. If they want to go in a certain direction, then move in that direction. They made a big comment on the QB situation by rolling out the red carpet for Burrow in May. They shouldn't put up some pretense that they think everyone is on equal footing.
If they're hoping that Burrow clearly distinguishes himself in practice then that is potentially problematic. Giving everyone equal reps may not allow Burrow to make the progress he needs to make to truly showcase his talents.
Of course if he just blows everyone away in this next week or two then all of this is moot.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:46 pm to boxcar willie
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you must be a simpleton if you really believe he promised one of them they would be the starter against Miami if they didn't transfer
I don't think he promised anyone but Burrow anything. However, to keep them from transferring, you never know if the "simpleton" in charge promised something that may result in Burrow entering the game after the first couple offensive series.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:48 pm to luciouslou
Burrow at no.4 is a HUGE shock, but McMillan is a deserved #1 in a DEEP quarterback core.
I've been a McMillan bandwagoneer ever since he came in in mopup duty vs Jacksonville back in the old days when Miles was still calling the shots. I saw a QB with exceptional skills and have been aggrieved in seeing him ride the pine all this time.
I've been a McMillan bandwagoneer ever since he came in in mopup duty vs Jacksonville back in the old days when Miles was still calling the shots. I saw a QB with exceptional skills and have been aggrieved in seeing him ride the pine all this time.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:51 pm to tarzana
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Burrow at no.4 is a HUGE shock
Maybe this has already been stated, but if you want to keep the perception that there's an actual competition, putting him at the back is the best way to approach it. Legit QB race or not, this is optics.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:54 pm to tarzana
smh
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:59 pm to Goldrush25
quote:the players know what's happening -- they saw the 3 other Qbs all spring. They know why we went out and got Burrow.
If this is a true race, then he'd better be prepared to start whoever performs the best in practice. Otherwise he'd probably have a locker room problem if say McMillan consistently performs the best in practice but he gives the nod to Burrow because that's what he wanted to do in the first place.
O's just trying to keep all 4 QBs engaged right now. It's actually a good thing.
But barring an injury or a complete meltdown by Burrow, he's our stater. And the rest of the players realize this.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:00 pm to 1999
You can tell it’s getting close to football season when the idiots start coming out in force like this. People typing entire paragraphs that say absolutely nothing because they know absolutely nothing.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:04 pm to atltiger6487
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But barring an injury or a complete meltdown by Burrow, he's our stater. And the rest of the players realize this.
So you think the QBs know that?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:11 pm to tarzana
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Burrow at no.4 is a HUGE shock
I don't think so. This guy hasn't practiced with the team until fall camp. He's going to start at the bottom of the totem pole (amongst scholarship QBs) and have to earn the job by showing the coaches what he can do in practice, scrimmages, and in the film room/position meetings.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:30 pm to luciouslou
202 here reporting lol
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:35 pm to luciouslou
Thanks for the link. The way the OP wrote it had me believing Burrow was going to be 4th on the depth chart for the first scrimmage.
My only concern about being that low on the depth chart is potential for injury if not properly protected. Just don't want any foolish injuries like what happened to Fournette a few summers ago by a freshman giving it all and forgetting the potential repercussions for his actions.
My only concern about being that low on the depth chart is potential for injury if not properly protected. Just don't want any foolish injuries like what happened to Fournette a few summers ago by a freshman giving it all and forgetting the potential repercussions for his actions.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:41 pm to luciouslou
McMillan can't beat out Burrow (not in this lifetime or any other). Besides, there is no real depth chart. Go back and re-read the article.
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