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re: BUNTING basics for Lester
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:55 am to Glizzy_gang
Posted on 2/22/25 at 6:55 am to Glizzy_gang
Why direct a thread at Lester?
Lester literally lives at a keyboard (over 283,000 posts on these boards), so why pick on him? Guys like him are generally fat, incontinent, and they smell really funny. No reason to make his existence even less substantial than it already is.
Lester literally lives at a keyboard (over 283,000 posts on these boards), so why pick on him? Guys like him are generally fat, incontinent, and they smell really funny. No reason to make his existence even less substantial than it already is.
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Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:12 am to Wayne Campbell
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Cool. Now what would have happened if they didn’t bunt?
Double play?
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:18 am to Pankins
quote:only in Ebonics
double negatives are grammatically incorrect only when used unintentionally.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:33 am to Lester Earl
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Controling the probability does not override the potential results of swinging away in that situation. Even with that said, 15% of sac bunts last year in the MLB resulted in a popup/SO/FC. Swinging away is probably slightly more risky but the reward is much greater than giving up an out in that situation.
frick why didn’t we hire this guy as coach?
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:36 am to Hot Carl
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This is the issue. You guys are in here just trying to score A run. ONE run. Les and the rest of us are trying to score runS, plural. Outs are precious. You don’t give the other team any free ones when you don’t have to.
In a game where teams were given a combined 54 outs and only 6 total runs were scored, which was more precious - a run or an out?
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:37 am to SidewalkTiger
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It's always funny to me when message board posters believe they're smarter than coaches who are literally paid millions of dollars to do what they do.
This is the frequency that MLB managers have bunted over the last 3 seasons in this same situation. I guess they are dumb too, huh?
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:42 am to Glizzy_gang
I am typically anti-bunt in most situations, but for me it's specific to who is at the plate. First off can the guy bunt - if you are asking a guy who rarely bunts and if and when he does is not very good at it - it's not advisable.
Secondly, what is the players hitting profile? Does he hit a lot of ground balls, is he a fly ball hitter, does he give you a lot of slug, all those things factor in. If he's one of my best hitters, I don't want to waste an out having him bunt.
Now if he's one of my weakest hitters who hits the ball on the ground a lot when he makes contact, but is a capable bunter and it's first and second and no outs - then I would consider it based on the context of the game - the score, the flow of the game, etc.
Secondly, what is the players hitting profile? Does he hit a lot of ground balls, is he a fly ball hitter, does he give you a lot of slug, all those things factor in. If he's one of my best hitters, I don't want to waste an out having him bunt.
Now if he's one of my weakest hitters who hits the ball on the ground a lot when he makes contact, but is a capable bunter and it's first and second and no outs - then I would consider it based on the context of the game - the score, the flow of the game, etc.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:53 am to Glizzy_gang
You definitely decrease your chances of scoring multiple runs and increase your chances of scoring 1 run.
With that said, up 4-0, preconference, with this pitching staff, im okay trying things out and increasing the likelyhood of scoring 1 run in a game like that with the conditions. But it cannot be argued that the decision increased the expected runs scored.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:53 am to Ipissexcellence
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The world will never know.
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But without the bunt Jones doesn’t score and they don’t have a runner on third after that play.
Well which is it?
The simple truth is using the results of a decision to justify not making a different decision is pointless.
Even if the run doesn’t score later in the inning it doesn’t mean bunting was the wrong decision. But the outcome of not bunting is unknowable. Maybe it’s a double play, maybe it’s a two run double.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:55 am to Lester Earl
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Swinging away is probably slightly more risky but the reward is much greater than giving up an out in that situation.
Going for it on 4th and 2 at the opponent’s 20 yard line with a 13 point lead and 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter has a chance of high reward too. But if you’ve had trouble moving the ball all game and your defense is playing well, you take the 3 points and force your opponent to score 3 times in the final 10 minutes to beat you.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:59 am to LSU82BILL
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Going for it on 4th and 2 at the opponent’s 20 yard line with a 13 point lead and 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter has a chance of high reward too.
This is not equitable example compared to bunting in the 5th inning of a baseball game, 1-2, 0 Outs. If you have to go to this extreme, it may be worth admitting that you are not right.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 7:59 am to Tiger1988
You are literally too stupid to insult
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:09 am to Pankins
quote:you are literally too obtuse to get an obvious joke.twice. If you’ve spent any time on here you know why I commented what I did the first time. It was a troll specifically to draw out one particular dumbass posted who has dogged bunting, Alex Milazzo, praised the quitter Neal and continually posts dumb shite about baseball like he is some sort of authority when he never played, coached or had any baseball experience working in baseball other than maybe the concession stand.
You are literally too stupid to insult
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:13 am to Adam Banks
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An idiotic hunch that a good hitter will suck
He had statistics on his side for 5 innings but yea it was an idiotic hunch. fricking clown
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:24 am to SidewalkTiger
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Runs were at a premium in that game,
Runs are made into a premium when you give away outs when it’s set up for a big inning.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:33 am to Howyouluhdat
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He had statistics on his side for 5 innings but yea it was an idiotic hunch.
It was the fifth inning so it was four innings of information and he took the bat out of his 5 hole hitters hands who has a .375 average and >1.000 OPS
There really is no justification for this as a smart decision for anyone who knows baseball
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:36 am to Lester Earl
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1st and 2nd, no outs in the 5th inning against a bad team and you score 1 run is not "working".
So no where in your mind can the purpose of executing this play be to see it in action for future games down the road? Coaches run plays that seem meaningless to others, but you don't know if the batter has had trouble getting the bunt down, or the runners need to see it in live action.
Many of the kids LSU recruits have rarely bunted in their life due to being the best player on their travel ball, Summer teams, HS, and CC.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:40 am to geauxbrown
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Meh, it’s situational for sure, but as a coach I firmly believe in using early season to run scenarios that may not make sense otherwise.
That's exactly what happened here.
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:51 am to moneyg
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Meh, it’s situational for sure, but as a coach I firmly believe in using early season to run scenarios that may not make sense otherwise. That's exactly what happened here.
Which is completely different then posting a celebration thread because a bunt “worked”
Posted on 2/22/25 at 8:57 am to Cuz413
If the intent was simply to practice bunting, well, this thread doesn’t get to 4 pages. Sadly, people still think this was a viable strategy at that point of the game.
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