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re: BRPD releasing the Koy Moore bodycam footage this afternoon.

Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:46 pm to
Posted by coonass27
shreveport
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:46 pm to
The guns weren’t pulled because they didn’t comply. The guns were pulled because when the cops told them to put their hands on the car, he reached for his pocket and waist band. Regardless of what they were called to investigate, 2 guys were acting shady (maybe they were scared) but hiding and causing suspicion then reached for their pocket after being told to put their hands on the car. Hindsight is 20 20 and should cops just be able to pull guns on people no. But in a strange distinction suck as this one I feel it was warranted.

And then the lies posted by the guys and stirring the pot should be dealt with strongly. That is one of the reasons things are so bad right now. On both sides.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78332 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:46 pm to
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He didn’t have a gun. He is dead.


So it was a completely Different situation

Where the teens had guns and the Uber drivers did not.

See in this situation the cop had a gun.

The other two cops had guns too.

He had his gun drawn.

Neither teen had a gun.

See how it’s fricking dumb to compare them when it’s the exact opposite?
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3670 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:48 pm to
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Because he didn’t DO ANYTHING


He is still required to obey an order if it is lawful. It was. He disobeyed the lawful order. He did DO SOMETHING.

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Apparently cops can be nervous and scared in these situations but not unarmed kids.


Unarmed kids aren’t being murdered by police.

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Pulling guns is an escalation that situation was escalated by the police.


Not obeying a lawful order and reaching for an unknown object is an escalation. That situation was escalated by Moore.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 9:49 pm
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42338 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:49 pm to
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See how it’s fricking dumb to compare them when it’s the exact opposite?


Except that the teens, in this case, are alive.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87207 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:50 pm to
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Because he didn’t DO ANYTHING
He was hiding from cops. That brings suspicion because, well, it’s suspicious. That leads to a cop investigating. Part of that is to keep them with their hands on the vehicle. Typical procedure.
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Apparently cops can be nervous and scared in these situations but not unarmed kids.
I just said they both could be.
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Pulling guns is an escalation that situation was escalated by the police.
False. Pulling guns can turn an argument that could get physical into no argument and compliance. Which is what it did.
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She was shot while attempting to handcuff a shoplifting suspect... that doesn’t seem like the same situation.
She was shot with her own gun while confronting someone who she thought might have stolen something. She never got around to trying to handcuff him. He punched her in the face when she got close enough. Took her gun. And shot her.

What most people don’t know is the exact same scenario happened at the same Walmart a week before. But this time the officer was male and had a glock instead of a revolver. The glock had the strap over the holster and the perp couldn’t get the gun as easily.

In both of these situations you had cops confront someone who was simply doing something suspicious. An argument turned into a physical altercation and in one instance someone died. That is what cops are up against in these situations where there is so much unknown and you have to be on your guard when people act suspiciously. This happens so fricking often but you never hear about it because they do a much better job of not letting situations get out of control. Pulling the gun keeps control over the situation. It forced faster compliance and less arguing. It turns what could be a bad, 5 minute encounter into a no issues 30 second encounter. They do this for a reason and it’s for everyone’s safety not just theirs. I’m sorry that’s difficult for you to understand because it’s not all Roses and happy exchanges and someone’s feelings get hurt. But it’s reality.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30555 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:50 pm to
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Neither teen had a gun.

And how were they supposed to know that when they came walking out from hiding behind a vehicle, then ignored the order to put their hands on the car, and with the first guy even then putting his hands by his side or behind his back where a gun presumably would have been?
Posted by Dead Mike
Cell Block 4
Member since Mar 2010
3933 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:51 pm to
Valiant effort, SammyTiger, but you’re shouting into the void. As soon as any doubt was cast on Moore’s story, as soon as there was any room for interpretation, the vast majority of people on this website were going to condemn him. I don’t know how many posts you’ve read lately, but there is zero chance of him getting the benefit of the doubt from this crowd.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87207 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:51 pm to
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See in this situation the cop had a gun.
The man who killed Vickie didn’t have a gun. Neither did the guy who attacked the cop the week before.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 9:52 pm
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3670 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:52 pm to
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Valiant effort, SammyTiger, but you’re shouting into the void. As soon as any doubt was cast on Moore’s story, as soon as there was any room for interpretation, the vast majority of people on this website were going to condemn him. I don’t know how many posts you’ve read lately, but there is zero chance of him getting the benefit of the doubt from this crowd


The truth of what happened is out now.
Posted by SUB
Silver Tier TD Premium
Member since Jan 2009
24827 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:53 pm to
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These guys weren’t playing any music, so they shouldn’t have been stopped at all.


Are you saying that cops shouldn’t ever stop to investigate a situation if they are in the process of responding to a non-urgent call?
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 9:54 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87207 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:54 pm to
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but there is zero chance of him getting the benefit of the doubt from this crowd.
Because we know the facts now?
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:54 pm to


Link me to your posts giving the cop the benefit of the doubt.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78332 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:54 pm to
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Except that the teens, in this case, are alive.


They’re alive in both cases it’s a shitty comparison.

Completely different set of facts.

Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30555 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:56 pm to
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I don’t know how many posts you’ve read lately, but there is zero chance of him getting the benefit of the doubt from this crowd
There’s actual video that people can watch. There doesn’t need to be doubt about anything.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78332 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:57 pm to
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The man who killed Vickie didn’t have a gun. Neither did the guy who attacked the cop the week before.



If you mix and march enough unrelated situations you might get to something similar
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
52510 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:57 pm to
Holy frick it's scary that some of you are allowed to vote. It's no wonder this country has gone to shite.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
55010 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:58 pm to
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Myron Daniels speaking
This is who should have been Chief


Didn't have enough supervisor experience and he wouldn't bow to Broome.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41866 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 9:58 pm to
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Valiant effort, SammyTiger, but you’re shouting into the void. As soon as any doubt was cast on Moore’s story, as soon as there was any room for interpretation, the vast majority of people on this website were going to condemn him. I don’t know how many posts you’ve read lately, but there is zero chance of him getting the benefit of the doubt from this crowd.


I for one waited to see what was on the body camera.
Now I know Moore lied, and the officers didn’t do anything out of line.

This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 7:17 am
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:00 pm to
It’s going to get much worse and these same idiots will be sitting there with their hand out to government wondering how it got this way.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87207 posts
Posted on 4/6/21 at 10:00 pm to
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If you mix and march enough unrelated situations you might get to something similar
You haven’t made one point of contradiction. I’m giving you examples of how an unarmed person can become lethal within milliseconds if a cop isn’t prepared for it or allows an argument to escalate. A drawn gun is partially meant to keep someone from taking that next step that could put everyone in danger. It works. We actually have video of it working here. Just because it doesn’t look nice and pretty doesn’t mean it’s not good practice and done for a reason.
This post was edited on 4/6/21 at 10:02 pm
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