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re: Brian Kelly trending on twitter

Posted on 4/8/22 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35476 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 3:25 pm to
The article mentioned "a pair" of tragic student deaths at Notre Dame. I know about the scissor lift one, does anyone know what the other was about?

Also, Notre Dame has always played a comically weak schedule. Overall records at Notre Dame should be viewed through that lens. I was surprised he didn't have bigger bowl wins. Mostly just beat LSU.
Posted by jsmoke222000
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
6214 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

extremelsu


Trolling? I have 12 season tickets my friend. I am 100% LSU. However it is my very strong opinion that Brian Kelly is not the answer. I will support the team and the program regardless of who the coach is but I don't have to like Brian Kelly. I have been very vocal on this board about this subject. You may seriously want to check my post history and you obviously need to lookup the definition of "trolling".
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21098 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9219 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 3:33 pm to
Salty
Posted by extremelsu
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2013
3881 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 4:52 pm to
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Everyone is so excited that we hired a guy who will be eligible for social security in just 2 years. Lord help us...
saban has won 3 national championships since being eligible for social security

Kelly has been around the block and knows how to manage a program. I think he’s just what we need right now
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 4:56 pm
Posted by jsmoke222000
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
6214 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 5:05 pm to
And I would have been equally as disappointed if we had hired Saban back as our head coach. Yes I know that he is the greatest coach in college football history. I'm certainly not saying that he isn't. But he is on his way out. He nor Brian Kelly will be coaching in 10 years. Brian Kelly will not fulfill his entire contract at LSU. Quite simply put, Brian Kelly is the guy that you hire 10 years ago. Maybe he will prove me wrong but only time will tell. Feel free to bookmark this thread. I will happily eat crow if I am proven wrong.

Please take the time to read the 2 articles I have linked below.
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 6:50 pm
Posted by jsmoke222000
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2007
6214 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 6:43 pm to
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The article mentioned "a pair" of tragic student deaths at Notre Dame. I know about the scissor lift one, does anyone know what the other was about?


https://thegruelingtruth.com/college-football/case-brian-kelly/

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The assault and suicide of Lizzy Seeberg

In the same year Declan Sullivan lost his life, another mostly-forgotten case involving Notre Dame football and the untimely death of a college student occurred. People, especially defenders of Kelly, should probably read up on this incident.

As noted in a piece of December 2012 entitled  Notre Dame Football and the Federal Case of Lizzy Seeberg’s Death:

The incident allegedly occurred on September 1st, 2010. The alleged assault victim, Elizabeth “Lizzy” Seeberg of Northbrook, IL was diagnosed with clinical depression and possibly committed suicide nine days later. (The overdose on anti-depressants was ruled a suicide) Seeberg’s alleged sexual assailant is currently on the Notre Dame football team.

The identity of the alleged assailant never came out. The fact that the only true witness has passed on makes things rather murky. But what we know for sure is that an incident of this magnitude is not receiving the amount of media coverage that it should.

While the tragic loss of Declan Sullivan and his macabre tweets forecasting his own death made every wire service, every network, every website and saturated the news cycle […] Lizzy Seeberg has gone largely unnoticed and well under-reported by the press…

When outrage resulted from the announcement three months after the incident that the unnamed player would not be charged by local authorities (he would later be cleared of all charges in federal court), Kelly was quoted only as stating that “One of my jobs as the head football coach, as I tell our players, is to eliminate confusion. The prosecutor’s statement, at least from what I was able to glean, clears up some of that. That’s probably what I took from it more than anything else.”


Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14497 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:15 pm to
So you bring up a story pointing the finger at a Coach for sexual Accusation from a student that took her life because of a player on the football team. Hate to break it to you but almost every coach at all College football levels could be found guilty of this including the last two coaches at LSU. The difference is the Student toke her life thus the story. I'm not saying its right but it's the truth. More needs to be done to fix this problem in sports especially Bigtime Sports like football and Basketball. It may get worse now with These players now getting paid big money.

As far as the comment stating it was Brian kelly and not ND's fault for ND not doing more in his time there. Did they not look at the revolving door of Coaches they had before Kelly came in and made them relevant? The poster may not like kelly, as HC, but after having two coaches that seemed lost at times on the sidelines it will be nice to have some organization and a real football coach that has elevated every program he has coached at while being HC. I believe Kelly gets LSU to another Championship in the Next few years and it would be glorious if he beats ND to get it .
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27324 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:19 pm to
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Before Kelly was even a consideration for the LSU job, 99% of the LSU fan base would agree with that article




This is true. Just about everyone on this site would talk shite about him and notre dame's soft schedule.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:21 pm to
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Brian Kelly didn't win a championship at Notre Dame because of Brian Kelly, not because of Notre Dame.

Yeah Notre Dame was fricking winning natties on the reg before Kelly showed up
Posted by Jb1994
Member since Sep 2018
2116 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:25 pm to
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notre dame plays a comically weak schedule

Actually no they don't. This is one of the things kelly haters love to toss out it but it actually isn't true. They basically play a power 5 team every week. It's not an sec schedule but it's routinely in the top 10 hardest schedules
Posted by trakmak777
Atlanta, GA
Member since Jan 2006
1219 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:38 pm to
Long article, I need to read it outside of work.
Posted by Sevensblue
Las Vegas
Member since Apr 2022
1003 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:44 pm to
Yeah i agree. He has access to freak athletes now that he only had a few here and there at ND. He’s never really had a good QB which is concerning...
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
11761 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 7:48 pm to
A friend of mine played football at ND in the 80’s. He talks about BK as if they were glad he left because he wasn’t one of “them” but at the same time knows he is the only one to win there since Holtz. It’s hilarious and they hate he left even though they won’t admit it.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35476 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:02 pm to
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So you bring up a story pointing the finger at a Coach for sexual Accusation from a student that took her life because of a player on the football team.
I asked about the other incident that was referenced in the article, so I think he was just answering the question for me. I wouldn't blame Kelly for that anymore than I would blame Orgeron for the Guice stuff since no one told him about any of it (beside the Superdome lady, which is kinduv a sketchy story).
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
2420 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:08 pm to
he’s a O pumper ?? !!
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18022 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:08 pm to
So much stupid in this thread.

The last time ND won a National Championship was with Lou Holtz.

Notre Dame “relaxed” their academic requirements then.

After that they brought back their academic requirements.

What Brian Kelly did at Notre Dame was just outstanding.

If any of you can’t or don’t realize that…

You’re just stupid
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35476 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:10 pm to
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Actually no they don't. This is one of the things kelly haters love to toss out it but it actually isn't true. They basically play a power 5 team every week. It's not an sec schedule but it's routinely in the top 10 hardest schedules

Nonsense. They usually play 2 or 3 ranked teams, at least one of which is artificially ranked to promote the game against Notre Dame, a good TV draw. By the end of the season they usually finish with 1 or 2 teams that finish the year ranked from their schedule. And they still struggle with some of the cupcakes.
Posted by Jb1994
Member since Sep 2018
2116 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:16 pm to
OK sure.
Posted by Im4datigers
Northern Virginia
Member since Oct 2003
4466 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 8:20 pm to
Right? You think before an SI reporter launches an attack article he’d at lease spell check the damn thing
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