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re: Brian Kelly chewing out Ramos.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:34 am to josh336
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:34 am to josh336
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How do most of yall still not understand its not because he missed the kick
Um…yeah of course it was. If he makes the kick, he could have cartwheeled up to it and he wouldn’t have gotten half that earful.
That outburst by was the culmination of a horrible half of football, in which you rushed a kicker out just to try to get a little breathing room against the easiest team on your schedule. How much are you moving the needle yelling at a kicker for a situation he isn’t likely to be put in again?
He was embarrassed, as he should have been, and embarrassed himself further
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Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:35 am to mtntiger
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That's fine, but where is the same accountability for an offensive line that can't run block , a defensive line that gets pushed around by an FCS school, a defense that can't tackle, a secondary that rarely plays the ball, etc?
All of what you listed is more likely related to a combination of scheme, fitness, technique, and/or talent issues that are more complicated than a single boneheaded decision.
Ramos was taking his sweet arse time getting set immediately after getting instruction from BK when everyone in the stadium including the other 10 guys on the field knew that the clock was going to start on the ref's whistle. A kicker shouldn't be immune from an arse-chewing for not being ready to play.
These kids need less coddling in 2024, not more, no matter what position you play.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:37 am to 904
That’s what everyone is missing.
Ramos was taking his sweet time getting set up and ended up having to rush it.
He appeared clueless on the time crunch
Ramos was taking his sweet time getting set up and ended up having to rush it.
He appeared clueless on the time crunch
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:40 am to OceanMan
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Um…yeah of course it was. If he makes the kick, he could have cartwheeled up to it and he wouldn’t have gotten half that earful.
I'd be willing to bet he still would've gotten an earful because if I could see that Ramos wasn't ready, then Kelly definitely could. It doesn't matter if he makes the kick or not, but if they're focused, willing to take instruction, and put themselves in the best position to play to their potential. It's all part of the process that Saban and Kelly have constantly talked about.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:40 am to Sp0728
The center cannot snap the ball as soon as the clock is wound. Usually the official isn’t even out of the way when they wind it.
People saying they should have just spiked it don’t seem to understand the situation.
Even with the FG attempt, they didn’t snap it until there were :02 seconds on the clock.
People saying they should have just spiked it don’t seem to understand the situation.
Even with the FG attempt, they didn’t snap it until there were :02 seconds on the clock.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:40 am to Yeahright
You clearly don’t understand the rule. 3 seconds IS not plenty of time. It is the absolute minimum thus requiring perfect execution. With the clock being stopped due to the review. Kicking the ball there was the perfect decision. GTFO
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:42 am to burke985
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It takes one second to spike the ball 2 if you wanna be generous
Some you guys are amazing. I remember a few years back when ATM was given 2 seconds and LSU fans pointed out that the SEC officials manual pointed out that if 3 or fewer seconds were left on the clock it is not possible to spike the ball and stop the clock with any time left. Did the space/time continuum change because it was us on the clock???
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:45 am to tigersquad89
If we ever see BK screaming at a big time player, and that player then transfers as players are constantly in danger of doing, I don’t want to hear anything about “how can you be so stupid as to yell at your best players when everyone in college is a free agent and LSU can’t pay as well as some other schools.”
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:49 am to jimithing11
It’s football dude, a contact sport. Who cares if he grabbed Ramos’ jersey?
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:51 am to supatigah
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and if they spiked the ball and time ran out there are people that would be screaming about kelly not managing the situation correctly and costing the team three points
EXACTLY
Posted on 9/8/24 at 11:52 am to biglego
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If we ever see BK screaming at a big time player, and that player then transfers as players are constantly in danger of doing, I don’t want to hear anything about “how can you be so stupid as to yell at your best players when everyone in college is a free agent and LSU can’t pay as well as some other schools.”
If a "big time" player transfers because they got yelled at, then they're probably not mentally tough enough for a championship team anyway
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:01 pm to biglego
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If we ever see BK screaming at a big time player, and that player then transfers as players are constantly in danger of doing, I don’t want to hear anything about “how can you be so stupid as to yell at your best players when everyone in college is a free agent and LSU can’t pay as well as some other schools.”
Impressive straw man
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:09 pm to tigersquad89
We were standing around waiting for them to review the play. Ramos was out there in plenty of time but he wasn't paying attention, stretching and not set to kick. That is what Kelly was probably yelling at him for. He needed to be ready to kick the moment the whistle was blown to start the clock. Ramos ' head was not in the game right then.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:25 pm to tigersquad89
It’s always the players fault per BK. The coaching staff is 100% responsible for the poor play but he wants to blame the players.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:32 pm to OceanMan
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a kicker for a situation he isn’t likely to be put in again?
What if he is?
What if he has to kick a game winner vs bama with time ticking off?
Maybe it’s not 3 seconds and maybe there’s not a review maybe it’s a rush on the field after a first down with 5 seconds. Clock starts on the ref.
You willing to say let it slide?
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:35 pm to EastTexasTiger
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It’s always the players fault per BK. The coaching staff is 100% responsible for the poor play but he wants to blame the players.
When the coach gives instruction immediately before they go to the field, and the player doesn't follow said instruction, what do you expect? Players are adults who are now profiting off of the game, so why can't they share responsibility as well?
Also, instead of ripping into the team for the lackluster start to the game in his post-game presser, Kelly gave them a pass because of the travel and short week. So according to BK from literally last night, it's not always the players' fault.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:44 pm to BeeFense5
Entire country of sensitivity! Don't hurt anyone's feelings please
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:46 pm to BeeFense5
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I don’t know how some of you handled Nick saban as coach since we have such a sensitive fanbase
Lately most the posters on this board have Mangas and seem like they want everybody to get a participation trophy
Posted on 9/8/24 at 12:52 pm to tigersquad89
Ramos was confused about the clock. Kelly’s point to him was that the clock didn’t matter once the ball was snapped. As the kicker, his one job was to execute the kick. That’s it. If you go back and watch Kelly’s actions during the review prior to the kick, he was doing everything he could to prepare them to be ready to execute. They simply didn’t. And the only part that didn’t was the actual kick. That’s on Ramos.
You people want Kelly to be more animated and vocal, but complain when he does that. You make zero sense.
You people want Kelly to be more animated and vocal, but complain when he does that. You make zero sense.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 1:03 pm to tigersquad89
Spike with three seconds leaves no time; clock at 0.0. NCAA rules. NFL would be possible, though.
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