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re: Brennan is alot like Jarrett Lee

Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:28 am to
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:28 am to
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How many times did Jarrett Lee throw for 345 and 3tds? He wouldn’t have that in a 3 game stretch many times.


How many times was he given the chance in a Les Miles offense? Jarrett Lee lead comebacks vs Florida in The Swamp and the winning TD drive vs Tennessee in ‘10. Oh yeah, after he sucked in his first road start vs Auburn looked like a future All American in the second half comeback.
Brennan threw 60 times. The Gilbert TD was pure luck and was actually a bad decision.
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:32 am to
Not sure about Jarrett Lee comparison. But he did look scared, timid, weak running and incapable of just finding or anticipating the open receivers and making that decision.

Sure he threw for 300+ yards, but he also had WAYYYYYYYY too many attempts to get those 300 yards. That's on the coaches. Whoever thought it was wise to out air raid the air raid genius should rethink their philosophy. Our running game needs better play calling and we will need to run much less empty backfields to give MB more options. It was stupid to basically run the same running play every time and the coaches should have noticed how uneasy MB was and adjusted the playcalling quickly.

Same could be said on defense and the horrible play from the defensive backs. At least the offense semi made changes. Those poor db's were left to rot out there man on man.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24268 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:32 am to
The State defender drilled him near the sideline when he took off early in the game. Brennan got right up and didn't seem very affected by it.
Posted by sanora
Member since Feb 2019
1630 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 8:35 am to
agreed. pretty good arm, fairly talented dude, but doesn't appear to have a whole lot of fortitude
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28288 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:09 am to
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It was one start. There was a time when Tiger fans would have been very happy with his stats for the day.


There was also a time LSU fans would have been very happy with a 7 win season. Point being, you have to judge people/things in the relevant time frame. In 2019 LSU completely changed its offensive approach. Thus, you have to compare him to now...not the pre-2018 "stone age".

Was he horrible? No. But he didn't look like a 4th year (albeit still inexperienced player). He looked incredibly hesitant all game. Even in his first start in 2018, Burrow looked confident and in control. His numbers weren't great (a big part of that is because of the, then, offensive approach), but he was throwing with confidence. There weren't double clutches and hitches. He let the ball fly. THAT is what was concerning about Brennan. Not so much the overall numbers.

Should Brennan's numbers have been enough to beat MSU if the defense had carried its weight? Maybe. But Brennan's play (and the offense) were a big part of why the defense was completely gassed in the 2nd half. LSU had 7 possessions in the first half. 6 of them were 5 plays or less. He only converted on one 3rd down...the Hail Mary from the 11 yard line that Gilbert pulled in.

Can he improve? You would certainly think so with more experience. But I think the onus is now on the offensive staff to help him with the play calling and approach. Burrow was deadly throwing crossing routes. Hell, he's razor sharp on those routes now in the NFL. Clearly Brennan is hesitant on those throws. Thus, as frustrating as it may sound for LSU fans, I think they have to go back to a little bit of the old style. No, now power I formation. But more of a power running approach (from the shotgun), with PA vertical routes. Even though he was still a bit hesitant, he did throw the deep ball well.

If the OC is going to ask him to run the "Joe Burrow" offense, then Brennan is going to fail. Tailor it to fit Brennan's strengths. That may be quick passes coupled with a power run game complemented by PA deep throws.
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:15 am to
QB takes to long to decide when to throw it ! The offense line was sorry but u have to know when to throw it away!
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29168 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:27 am to
Looks a lot more like JJ with an arm to me. JL would let ‘er rip, sometimes when he shouldn’t, Brennan looks to have both a slow processor and an unwillingness to throw until he sees a receiver wide open. Which is nearly always too late. Very much 2009/2010 JJ, who could at least run when he wouldn’t throw the ball.
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
5481 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 9:58 am to
JL got thrown into the fire as a RS freshman due to the Ryan Perrilloux debacle. Some argue he never recovered from the pick sixes. MB is in his fourth season at LSU and has started only one game and really played in only one game with the game on the line. Not sure how you can compare the two at this point. Give Myles a season as a starter before you compare.
Posted by Jamey21
Katy, Texas
Member since Jul 2019
747 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:05 am to
I could care less about his total passing yard during the game. He ran out of a perfect pocket set up by the offensive line 3 times. Got scared and just starting running for NO REASON!! Also I am seeing ZERO leadership in Myles. Never adjusted and took control after the nerves should have been gone after the 1st quarter. Still looked shaken the entire game.

Also, Defensive backs played horrible. Flott , Evans, and Ward. Stingley cannot protect the entire field. Middle of field was wide open all day. You guys wanted more blitzing. Well you got it. You blitz and leave the middle wide open. You're toast!
Posted by BlackPot
Member since Oct 2016
2058 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:14 am to
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Lacks the physical and mental toughness for the position.



1 fricking start and everyone throwing this kid away. I remember the same threads when Burrow had his first start.
Posted by Dotarian
Midwest
Member since Oct 2012
908 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:20 am to
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Lacks the physical and mental toughness for the position.


Foul ball....

Give Lee some credit - he was a freshman that was thrown to the wolves in a system that was notoriously bad at developing QB's. I don't think he ever really recovered from that, nor did Les' system do anything to try and help him develop (or even put him into a situation to succeed).

I have no doubt that, given time and a better situation, Lee would have been a MUCH better QB. He had the physical tools, but was developmentally handicapped (as a QB) by the situation and the system he found himself in.


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