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re: BOS extends Torina’s contract through 2028
Posted on 6/29/24 at 6:36 am to secfballfan
Posted on 6/29/24 at 6:36 am to secfballfan
Love it for the melt alone lol
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Posted on 6/29/24 at 7:47 am to dukeg7213
quote:Yes I would if that coach is better which wouldn't be hard to do.
You’d rather overpay for another coach?
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:16 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Some of these non-revenue sports will go away. Title IX may even go away or be altered.
Title IX is going nowhere. If anything, it will be expanded due to the perceived inequities in NIL.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 10:58 am to secfballfan
The absolute two best college softball programs are joining the SEC. Ouch. It will be tougher going forward.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:00 am to secfballfan
Softball fans
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:02 am to Ponchy Tiger
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Athlete are on the verge of getting paid. When this begins title ix will become irrelevant because they will then be employees.
Title IX applies to both students and employees of educational organizations and educational programs that receive federal funding. The act of making athletes into employees does not remove the anti-discrimination protections afforded to an individual under Title IX.
Boring reading on Title from Dept. of Justice.gov
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"Title IX and Title VI differ most in their scope of coverage. By way of summary, Title VI is broader as to the types of programs or activities covered (i.e., it covers all the operations of a recipient?s programs and activities) but narrow in its ability to reach employment discrimination. Specifically, Title VI prohibits employment discrimination on the part of a recipient only where a purpose of the federal financial assistance received is to provide employment. 42 U.S.C. ｧ2000d-3.74 Title IX, on the other hand, is narrower as to the types of programs or activities covered (i.e., it only covers educational components) but broader in that it reaches employment discrimination."
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:20 am to secfballfan
Don't know what she's being paid currently, but whatever it is, it's too much for her underachievements. This past season was supposed to be her best shot at a championship with a senior heavy roster but was taken down by superior coaching, superior recruiting and superior talent on the field.
Beth is living proof that you can be middle of the road year after year and make a pretty good living as a softball head coach for LSU. Shameful!
Beth is living proof that you can be middle of the road year after year and make a pretty good living as a softball head coach for LSU. Shameful!
Posted on 6/29/24 at 11:55 am to Lutcher Lad
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but was taken down by superior coaching, superior recruiting and superior talent on the field.
She was taken down by one pitcher.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 12:01 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
I do remember a run rule the last game so they scored and the fighting Torina’s did not…
Posted on 6/29/24 at 12:21 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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She was taken down by one pitcher.
Cringe worthy in an of itself. Especially when it applies to Dobson
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 6/29/24 at 12:25 pm to OchoDedos
If Dobson applied for ull job maybe he’s been told to find another job so he can exit without being fired
Posted on 6/29/24 at 12:41 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Schools are going to start paying players directly. Where is the money going to come from?
The source of the money for paying the players may be the key element since it is not sourced from "federal funding", however the simple act of turning the student-athlete into an employee does not preclude the anti-discrimination protections of the Title IX. Additionally, this act of turning the student-athlete into an employee opens up regulation under a litany of federal and state employment statutes including wage discrimination laws.
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I don’t know how they are going to work around Title IX, but they will have to for all that to be allowed.
This is the crux of my initial inquiry.
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One suggestion is a separation of the athletic department from the schools.
From purely a taxation point of view: The athletic department currently enjoys an exemption from federal taxation due to being under the blanket of of an exempt organization, namely the University. Separation from same would create taxation issues for the new entity as same would not necessarily qualify for federal tax exempt status under the narrow federal requirements for qualifying for same.
Additionally, this would create a "beneficial owner" issue for the new entity. Who would be the beneficial owner of the new entity? LSU? the State of Louisiana?
If LSU is the beneficial owner, this separation would not necessarily accomplish the Title IX work around, nor would it automatically qualify the new entity for federal tax exempt status.
The State of Louisiana being the beneficial owner, may (and that is a very iffy may) qualify for federal tax exemption under the doctrine of state business being federally tax exempt. However, this would bring the funds accumulated by the new entity under direct state legislature control; which would be a nightmare scenario.
The separation could also have adverse consequences for the federal tax exempt status of ancillary entities (the TAF) since it would call into question the educational scope and potentially no longer be tied directly to the University. And losing 501(c)(3) status would mean any donations made to the TAF would no longer be tax deductible for the donor.
There is a myriad of other issues, including use/rental of facilities, insurance, etc. that I will not go into at this point.
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Your question is valid and I have asked the same one myself, but I hear so called experts discussing this often and they always say it can be worked around.
Which is all well and good, until the judicial doctrine of "Substance over form" gets applied in court proceedings.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 1:03 pm to dukeg7213
It’s a losing sport any way. Bet it cost the school over 2 million a year
Posted on 6/29/24 at 1:53 pm to nicholastiger
Beth ain’t getting rid of Dobson she has had every opportunity for many years to address the offense and the deficiencies despite bringing in top recruiting class after top recruiting class
This post was edited on 6/29/24 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 6/29/24 at 3:02 pm to secfballfan
Buying out bTorina's contract, even extended, would be rather painless. Extend the contract for recruiting purposes but don't extend the time limit on getting to OKC.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 3:51 pm to Curtis Lowe
Great post. I agree with you.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 5:36 pm to Joecaster06
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75% of schools would kill to have her.
She's done absolutely nothing of note in the past 7 seasons. I don't think any school is knocking down the door to hire her.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 5:53 pm to secfballfan
I hope the buyout isn’t too high.
Posted on 6/29/24 at 8:09 pm to GeorgeWest
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My observation is this: concern about football dwarves every sport at LSU. But there are 4 lesser sports (in terms of interest) that we should all focus on. ..MBB, WBB, Baseball, and Gymnastics.
I dunno. I kinda want us to dominate every sport. I want us to win more titles in track & field, in men's golf, etc. I think it's cool having swimmers competing in the Olympics. Why shouldn't we expect to be competitive in every sport?
Posted on 6/30/24 at 7:41 am to GOP_Tiger
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Why shouldn't we expect to be competitive in every sport?
Regularly making it to Super Regionals is being competitive. There are limits to the resources available to the athletic department. They can’t just outspend everyone in every sport. Different schools are going to place emphasis on different sports. They’re also going to have different levels of built in advantages like natural recruiting bases. LSU is only 11th in the country in their softball budget and right around middle of the pack in the SEC. With no natural recruiting base, being around the 11th best program nationally, which they are, is about where they should be.
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