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re: Bookmark it: Pear is coming HOME

Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:02 pm to
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:02 pm to
Are there 15 clones of Rousse and Mallet at these 15 other schools? I was using that number to illustrate the absolute CHASM that exists between LSU and NC st financially, and how it will only get exponentially worse for the wolfpack.

Also, I think the LSU boosters have proven with the way they just underwrote THE HELL out of the football program's 180, the same can be done for basketball considering it would be less than half of that cost.

I'm not sure there's more than a handful of schools that could or WOULD do what we have to fund football, and then possibly basketball.
This post was edited on 2/27/26 at 8:06 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70546 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:02 pm to
We’re not making a run, he’s never had a winning streak in the SEC.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
5015 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:04 pm to
I hope you're right, but these last 3 games are very winnable. Especially tomorrow's game.
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
3491 posts
Posted on 2/27/26 at 8:09 pm to
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I hope you're right, but these last 3 games are very winnable. Especially tomorrow's game.


I don’t think they’ll beat Auburn or A&M
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3525 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 7:15 am to
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I just do not think LSU will promise enough roster money to get WW


Good lord you idiots vomit nonsense from your mouth without a clue of any of the facts. Is this a feeling you have or do you actually know this?
Because MM got more money this year than Wade did at NC State.
And if you don’t think money will start flowing in with him, a proven winner, coming back you’re a moron.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3525 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 7:24 am to
I can respect that. Thanks for the response and not being one of the ones who flys by with an unfounded “it’s racist!” Post.

I agree with you and would add that they’re emotional children and can’t fathom Wade coming back because they told themselves it was impossible so they can’t reconcile that with themselves.
They also, even though being told many many many times, still don’t fully understand that Wade did something all winning coaches do and the ONLY reason he ended up being fired was because of a fluke FBI recording that had nothing to do with him. They are like you said stupid and uninformed. Moscone or Guilbeau and other members of our terrible media told themselves he was a cheater and bad news and they believed them. Like they did with Kelly, and Miles when the sucked. And will support the coach no matter what until they’re told not to by media
The NCAA had no right to listen to those legally and if Wade wasn’t worried about coaching in the future he could’ve sued the ncaa for big bucks.

I’d add for some they’re huge lsu fans BUT can’t separate the school from the coach. I have an elderly uncle like this who will think they do no wrong and then when fired they were bad. It’s infuriating.
This post was edited on 2/28/26 at 7:28 am
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 2/28/26 at 7:33 am to
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You do realize we're receiving an SEC payout north of $70 million this year, right? And that will only grow, especially when the new TV deals are signed. We'll be getting north of $100 million annually then. And we aren't even talking about NIL and boosters yet.


You’ve posted this soooo many times and they still just can’t grasp it or what it means for us compared to much lower amounts the overwhelming majority of schools will get. Makes me want to bang my head in a wall
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3525 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 7:35 am to
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Btw Matt Braeuer was on the Full Court Press podcast. It’s worth a look.


Cliff notes for those with two toddlers and zero extra time besides the hour I spend on the toilet hiding every morning
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3525 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 7:42 am to
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I research to know more. That's how I think you, Alt and others know the specifics of revenue sharing. And others just repeat their erroneous opinion. --- It depresses me.


It really is. Yall lay out records, stats, numbers and projections depending on what the topic is to where any rational person who might have been a MM backer would say, “hmm those numbers point directly to a solution opposite of my opinion, I’ll adjust accordingly.” But they just stick their fingers in their ears and yell like a child while repeating the same wholly incorrect nonsense they heard on Moscona, etc.
A lot of them I think make it up in their head.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
5015 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 10:36 am to
It's so true. NC state and a number of others like syracluse, BC, Wake, are in serious trouble as far as being able to stay relevant in big time sports.

Also, I heard the Moscona podcast this morning about how it's too much to revamp basketball because football was just done.

First of all, the cost of a revamp for basketball is probably 1/3 of the cost for football. Also, McMahon and his entire staff are almost guaranteed to be employed SOMEWHERE next year, lowering the cost further. Possibly to 1/4 of the football cost. Those guys are way too young to pull a BK.

Billionaires in general don't like to waste money, they're not wired that way, it's why they're billionaires.

But a lot of them also have huge egos, and would like nothing more to be known in 10 years as the guy who brought Wade back and revitalized LSU basketball.

I just refuse to believe that somebody (Rousse and Mallet plus others), are going to allow this DUMPSTER FIRE to continue to rage.

It feels HORRIBLE to root against LSU (not that it really matters from my living room), but he has to go.
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 2/28/26 at 10:57 am to
He's not coming because you people keep calling him "Pear."
Posted by Circle K Beggar
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/28/26 at 11:03 am to
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I just refuse to believe that somebody (Rousse and Mallet plus others), are going to allow this DUMPSTER FIRE to continue to rage.


That is what I’m telling myself as well. Considering Mallett tried to make a move last year, I can’t imagine he’ll be good with just sitting back and letting this go on. I could be wrong but I pray that I’m not.

The program is dead at the moment. Absolute travesty that it has gotten to this point.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22924 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 11:05 am to
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First of all, the cost of a revamp for basketball is probably 1/3 of the cost for football. Also, McMahon and his entire staff are almost guaranteed to be employed SOMEWHERE next year, lowering the cost further. Possibly to 1/4 of the football cost. Those guys are way too young to pull a BK.


Not a defense of the football over basketball arguement but FB brings in 80% of the net revenue to the athletic dept. So if BB revamp costs 1/3 or 1/4 of FB revamp then it is a worse proposition than FB was.

Now the sane arguement, absoluetly LSU needs to clean house in MBB but the question is how high are you going to shoot? The moon? There are programs out there that are "MBB first" at their institution and they will set the bar for what it costs to be relevent. So will LSU pull together a financial package to attrract a top tier coach AND players? The hard truth is that because of SEC revenue sharing we are not losing an extraordinary amount of cash. We are losing the value of the Brand but LSU is propped up by FB, Baseball, WBB, & Gym. So it will be a hard decision for Verge and Rousse to make.

I dont see how LSU can go on with the situation as it is and if the mega-money donors pony up the the sky is the limit. I will add that they put up more money than I ever expected for FB...
This post was edited on 2/28/26 at 11:06 am
Posted by LSUFootballLover
BR
Member since Oct 2008
4648 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 2:15 pm to
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He's not coming because you people keep calling him "Pear."


I agree. This needs to die.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
5015 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 2:15 pm to
I respect your opinion, however:

Nobody watches or cares about college baseball or gymnastics on a national "it helps the brand level". And the impact of girl's basketball is way overblown due to a media agenda and a once in a lifetime great white hope from Iowa, IMO.

The only 2 sports that bring a lot of notoriety to your school by being elite are football and men's basketball. They are the only 2 with BILLION dollar TV contracts.

The networks put their money into sports with an ROI, and they're heavily invested in the 2 college sports that move the needle. LSU would be wise to do the same.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22924 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 2:40 pm to
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Nobody watches or cares about college baseball or gymnastics on a national "it helps the brand level". And the impact of girl's basketball is way overblown due to a media agenda and a once in a lifetime great white hope from Iowa, IMO.


I agree with this to a large extent.

quote:

The only 2 sports that bring a lot of notoriety to your school by being elite are football and men's basketball. They are the only 2 with BILLION dollar TV contracts.

The networks put their money into sports with an ROI, and they're heavily invested in the 2 college sports that move the needle. LSU would be wise to do the same.


The point I was making is that LSU makes the same amount of SEC rev share whether they are 1st or last due to the TV contracts. So how much revenue do you reap from spending $15 mil or $30 mil on MBB. Answer is not $15 mil +. The only gain LSU gets is differential ticket sales (MBB tix are not a lot like FB) and more merchandise for a better team performance (I have no idea what that number could be).

UK spent $22 mil on this yrs roster and they are floundering in the middle of the pack. How many more fans did they draw? none, they are sold out every game anyway. They did it because they want to win MBB championships, they suck at most everything else.

LSU FB spent what they did this yr because of the same reason. They could have spent half of what they spent and got an improved product but not a champion.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
5015 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 3:05 pm to
Alabama reportedly went from $1-2 million profit to anywhere between $6-12 million now.

If done correctly, (hopefully like what was just done with football), you only have to "bail this program out" once.

Ticket sales, parking, merchandising would SKYROCKET with a Wade return. The LSU radio broadcast ad rates would rise significantly. I think LSU keeps all of that revenue, I may be wrong.

Also, for each tournament appearance, a school receives $2 million. They also get that amount for each game won in the tournament. These are called units.

The revenue from these units does go to the SEC which distributes it to all league members, but the school that earned that unit gets a larger share. My guess would be $500k to the winner of the unit, and $100k to the other 15 members.

With the right hire, you can now sit back and reap the benefits. That's where Bama, Florida and Tennessee are. LSU damned sure should be a part of that group.

On top of this most college sports fans watch football and men's basketball. Very few (percentage wise), watch the other sports. Imagine if LSU was ELITE in football, and always in the tournament in basketball. There would be deep runs every few years. Hell, maybe even a title (see Baylor).
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1745 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 3:07 pm to
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Ticket sales, parking, merchandising would SKYROCKET with a Wade return


is this stuff really relevant relative to tv contracts? because volleyball and WBB pack the house and they don't earn shite
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
8974 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 3:12 pm to
Rousse is broke. Donor fatigue. Will try again next March if we can get a Donor or 2 to pick up BKs buyout or if BK gets a $50+ mil job.
Posted by Kato
Sec 102
Member since Nov 2006
3154 posts
Posted on 2/28/26 at 3:14 pm to
I'm at a airport bar in Cedar Rapids, Iowa and "I will wait" just came on... #itshappening
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