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BK & ND beat a more talented LSU in Music City Bowl
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:47 am
Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:47 am
At the game it was obvious LSU (#1 Defense in SEC that year) was the more talented team. 17 Tigers were drafted in 3 years including Leonard Founette, Jalen Mills, Jalen Collins, Kwon Alexander, Deion Jones, Danielle Hunter plus a number of other outstanding players LSU NFL Draft. ND had 10 draft picks in the same time period.
Key to the game was a change in quarterback (a first time starter) and game plan by Kelly vs. the Tigers:
New Notre Dame Offense or One Game Wonder?
Music City Bowl was an awful loss as we knew we had the better talent. I had no idea who BK was, but I knew he out coached us. Happy he's with us now.
My Takeaway: BK will adjust the scheme to fit the talent to give us the best chance to win. That's a good thing.
Key to the game was a change in quarterback (a first time starter) and game plan by Kelly vs. the Tigers:
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Notre Dame ran the football 51 times against LSU in the Music City Bowl earlier this week – tied for the most attempts during the five year Brian Kelly era – and the result was 263 yards of offense against the SEC’s top ranked defense.
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The main reason to uptake in rushing attempts was a heavy dose of quarterback runs out of the zone read from first time starter Malik Zaire. The sophomore quarterback ran the ball 22 times on Tuesday for a team high 96 yards.
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“Part of playing Malik (Zaire) and starting him was to try and find out how we were going to utilize him in the game and how to construct playing two quarterbacks,” Kelly said . “I think we can move forward and begin looking at that and how we can construct that.”
New Notre Dame Offense or One Game Wonder?
Music City Bowl was an awful loss as we knew we had the better talent. I had no idea who BK was, but I knew he out coached us. Happy he's with us now.
My Takeaway: BK will adjust the scheme to fit the talent to give us the best chance to win. That's a good thing.
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Posted on 8/14/22 at 10:58 am to Fat Man
A lot of “less talented” teams beat lsu over the last 15 years…
Let’s hope that shite changes. We played down to our competition so much, mkst frustrating part
Let’s hope that shite changes. We played down to our competition so much, mkst frustrating part
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:01 am to Fat Man
LSU for the past 10 years has always seemed to play down to their opponent besides the cupcakes (which even then were close it felt like) outside of 2019. A lot of that falls on coaching. Our sheer talent is something BK has never even come close to scheming
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:05 am to r0cky1
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:06 am to Fat Man
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My Takeaway: BK will adjust the scheme to fit the talent to give us the best chance to win. That's a good thing.
My takeaway: BK saw first hand the level of talent we had, and left Nashville wondering what he could do with that type talent.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:08 am to Fat Man
Bowl games outside of the playoff are meaningless. LSU generally plays that way in those games.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:14 am to Fat Man
Miles didn’t have his team prepared
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:19 am to Fat Man
No one will ever convince me that Miles didn't have money on that game. A guy that was absolutely obsessed with running the ball went away from a RB that was on fire and had a ton of yards in 3rd. He lost that game on purpose. NO way in hell they should have lost that game. If they just keep feeding the ball to Fournette LSU wins going away.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:30 am to Fat Man
It didn’t take much for us to get out coaches back then.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:39 am to Fat Man
John Chavis was gone mentally and had already taken the A&M job just didnt announce it.
I was at the luncheon w/ both teams and coaching staffs and entire LSU coaching staff sat at one table, and John Chavis sat at another one.
Defense didn't play up because Def. Coordinator wasn't in the game is my take. I was at that cold game and Fournette was a beast, but we kept letting them and their mobile QB run for 1st downs over and over.
As my Tenn. friends say, it was 3rd and Chavis a lot that game and we gave up far too many 1st downs to that team with that mobile QB.
I was at the luncheon w/ both teams and coaching staffs and entire LSU coaching staff sat at one table, and John Chavis sat at another one.
Defense didn't play up because Def. Coordinator wasn't in the game is my take. I was at that cold game and Fournette was a beast, but we kept letting them and their mobile QB run for 1st downs over and over.
As my Tenn. friends say, it was 3rd and Chavis a lot that game and we gave up far too many 1st downs to that team with that mobile QB.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:40 am to Fat Man
Kragthorpe scored
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:45 am to Ponchy Tiger
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No one will ever convince me that Miles didn't have money on that game. A guy that was absolutely obsessed with running the ball went away from a RB that was on fire and had a ton of yards in 3rd. He lost that game on purpose. NO way in hell they should have lost that game. If they just keep feeding the ball to Fournette LSU wins going away.
Meh. Everyone but Magee had solid YPC numbers if you look back at the stats. It was typical Miles to give him carries in a bowl game because it was his last game here.
Miles struggled that season, but he isn’t the reason we lost that game. We got completely screwed out of a TD on the fake FG- I credit Miles for going there because it worked and the officials just flat blew the call. I was there and everyone in the stadium knew he was in.
Second, that was the game that Chavis mailed in because he was headed out the door the next day. We lived on the play of the defense from mid-season on and they absolutely got their asses handed to them in that game. His sour, unprofessional arse was a big reason why. Alleva caused the situation, but Chavis had no business checking out on his players like that.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:48 am to tygerboy17
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Kragthorpe scored
This.
This is my takeaway.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:52 am to billfish21
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Miles didn’t have his team prepared
No the "one foot out of the door" John Chavis DC didn't have his defense prepared.
The Irish were 11/17 on 3rd down. "3rd & Chavis". That's nearly 65%. ND controlled the ball for 36 minutes to LSU's 22 minutes.
We were out coached. Malike Zaire ran all over us like Jayden Daniels will do to our competition this year, and then Golson came in and passed on us. They made some crazy plays (luck of the irish), and we were inches from a 4th down TD right before half.
They had some luck, but out coached us with an inferior team and won.
That being said Will Fuller was pretty good that day and so was their rushing QB.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 11:55 am to Fat Man
Our coaches had their heads up their arse going into that game. They didn’t take that game serious. Those losses to ND are some of the most pissed off I’ve been watching LSU for some reason.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 8/14/22 at 12:28 pm to Tigerik
We got SCREWED out of a Fournette TD that game. He was ruled short of the GL, it was reviewed and upheld.
Helen Keller could clearly see he scored if you "pieced the different replay angles together". But since no one angle showed that he clearly scored, it was upheld.
Funny thing though. In the years since, I've seen the replay officials "piece the angles together" to overturn calls CONSTANTLY. I always yell at the tv: "you can't piece it together!!", but I guess except for Leonard's play, you can. We most likely win that game with that called correctly.
Helen Keller could clearly see he scored if you "pieced the different replay angles together". But since no one angle showed that he clearly scored, it was upheld.
Funny thing though. In the years since, I've seen the replay officials "piece the angles together" to overturn calls CONSTANTLY. I always yell at the tv: "you can't piece it together!!", but I guess except for Leonard's play, you can. We most likely win that game with that called correctly.
This post was edited on 8/14/22 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:06 pm to Fat Man
I remember sitting through that disaster. After it was over I had flashbacks of the 2001 SEC championship where Mauck ran all over the Vols led by defensive coordinator Chavis. Our defense looked a lot like the Vols did that day. Wonder what the common denominator was.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:21 pm to misey94
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We got completely screwed out of a TD on the fake FG- I credit Miles for going there because it worked and the officials just flat blew the call. I was there and everyone in the stadium knew he was in.
Second, that was the game that Chavis mailed in because he was headed out the door the next day. We lived on the play of the defense from mid-season on and they absolutely got their asses handed to them in that game. His sour, unprofessional arse was a big reason why. Alleva caused the situation, but Chavis had no business checking out on his players like that.
I agree with all of this and LSU should have won by 2 TD's
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:31 pm to Fat Man
It was a typical Les Miles offense. Our passing game was 7 of 14 passes for a whopping 151 yards, half of those on a single TD pass. 7 completed passes. JFC.
People blaming Chavis when Les Miles consistently handcuffed the offense are ridiculous.
People blaming Chavis when Les Miles consistently handcuffed the offense are ridiculous.
Posted on 8/14/22 at 1:33 pm to PenguinPubes
Yeah and BK coached ND teams have also lost to lower talented teams and are NOTORIOUS for playing down to talent. I’m not sure Kelly is immune from this specific issue
-an ND alum
-an ND alum
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