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Posted by TigersWin88
Member since Mar 2022
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:09 pm to
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LA natives


Likely Anderson and Schmidt, with Shores taking the Friday spot.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:10 pm to
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he was at 94 at barbe his senior year


Meaning what? Topping out at 94?

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was before is not some unicorn thing...done often with guys that are willing to put in the work.


I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear. I don’t think just throwing 94-96 would make him a unicorn. We’ve seen him get around there at times already.

I think throwing that hard over 5-6ip based on where he was at would definitely make him a unicorn.



Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:11 pm to
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not all good players have good numbers in clutch situations.

not all players who have good numbers in clutch situations are good players all the time.



Not all good players get a hit every time

Not all players who have good numbers get a hit in every clutch situation
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:22 pm to
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he was at 94 at barbe his senior year and adding 5mph when at that low of a bodyweight and being as weak as he was before is not some unicorn thing...done often with guys that are willing to put in the work.

You know you don't have to bring up his high school numbers right? We have watched him pitch at LSU for 2 years.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:35 pm to
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Not all good players get a hit every time

Not all players who have good numbers get a hit in every clutch situation



but some players perform better (statistically) than their normal during clutch situations

some players perform worse (statistically) than their normal during clutch situations.




Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:36 pm to
Over a large sample size, no not really.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 3:45 pm to
I've heard too many coaches, specifically in MLB, say that this or that person has the "IT" factor to disregard it. Course, they are only major league level baseball people & not some noitall.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 4:28 pm to
That’s just Coach speak

Well, quantify it, Coach?

“You just know!”
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 4:34 pm to
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Over a large sample size, no not really.


A-Rod has 1,600 plate appearances in "Late and Close" situations (7th inning or later, up by 1, or with tying run at least on deck)
a little more than 2 seasons wort of plate appearances should be a large enough sample size.

his BA dips nearly 30 points below his career average (.268 vs .295)
his OPB dips 26 points below his career average (.364 vs .380)
his slugging % dips 45 points below his career average (.505 vs .550)
his PA/RBI drops from 5.85 to 5.76


Pujols has 1,900 plate appearances in those situations.
about 2.5 seasons worth should be a large enough sample size.

his BA is roughly the same (.288 vs .296)
his OBP goes up 26 points (.400 vs .374)
his slugging does dip 42 points (.502 vs .544)
his PA/RBI goes up from 5.89 to 6.01


A-Rod's numbers go down across the board over a plenty large enough sample size.
Pujols extra base hits goes down, but he maintains or improves everywhere else. Gets on base more often and drives in runs at a higher pace.

One guy is known to be clutch
the other is known to NOT be clutch

and the numbers back it up.



Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 4:40 pm to
That is not enough variance to label either as clutch or not clutch

Even if you can find an outlier or 10, that does not mean it is a thing considering the obscene amount of data that says other wise
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 4:43 pm to
I was bringing it up as a point of reference.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24532 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:11 pm to
Not sure how I feel about clutch either way, but I have seen some consistent anomalies with hitters and bases loaded situations
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21569 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 6:58 pm to
"Just coach speak". Based on what facts? As opposed to "just your opinion".
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:00 pm to
most hitters over their career, will not have enough ABs with bases loaded to determine much of a pattern
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87205 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 3:10 pm to
And had his girl stolen by Grayson Byrd
Posted by crownroyaltiger
The Good Ole L.P.
Member since Jan 2005
322 posts
Posted on 12/18/24 at 6:29 pm to
My take, while there is no "it gene" hitting is a constant battle mentally. If a player finds success in a certain situation, he then feels more comfortable in that situation when it arrives again. Success breeds success. By the same token, failure creates stress which affects performance. Player then gets labeled "clutch" when circumstances provide the outcome.
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
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Posted on 12/18/24 at 7:07 pm to
Thank you for the info. Top notch post.

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