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Penrod
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
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You will NOT reach an exit velocity above 100 on a grounder in the dirt surrounding the plate. You will NOT reach an exit velocity above 100 on a pop fly. So spare me the angle crap because it is already factored in to that speed off the bat.

You just don’t understand physics. There are a lot of angles between in the dirt and pop flys. You can hit a ball 100 mph that is a grounder. You won’t get an extra base hit on that. The fact is that speed off the bat does not equal power hitting. It is a factor as I said before. But for the simple minded it can act as a stand-in.

ell_13
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
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You just don’t understand physics.

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ell_13
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
That physics comment aside (I have a degree in physics), lots of hard hit grounders go for extra bases. Exit velocity is the major factor and, imo, more important than Hr total. You don’t get extra base hits without it. You don’t get Hrs without it. The other factor is the angle, but like I said, the higher the exit velocity, the more likely the angle is in that positive range simply because the angle of the pitch. We aren’t talking anecdotes. We are talking a combination of potential (max power) which is only obtained from those max velocities and frequency (how often that max is achieved).

josh336
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
Perfectly applied “dont understand physics” comment to the perfect poster

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Pole142
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
The only thing I don't like about this thread is ell_13. He tried his own once, and failed miserably. Since then he has trolled this post every year to the point that he makes up nearly 1/2 of the posts over 9 pages. And his only decent observation is on page 5.

Your jealousy is a little out of control, "physics major." (BTW, nobody really believes that)

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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
Ell has good baseball knowledge and there is nothing wrong with dissenting opinions. Even when I disagree with him I generally enjoy the back and forth between him and Adam

Penrod
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
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Exit velocity is the major factor

Yep. But earlier you said it was the ONLY factor, that everything else was already in the exit numbers.

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The other factor is the angle

Yep. All of this is what I was saying when you said, "Don't give me that crap."

josh336
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
His point was that a ball coming off the bat at 105mph already has a good angle. A ball coming off at a poor angle isnt getting close to 100-105mph. So in a way, the angle is captured by the exit speed. Yall are trying to make similar points.

ProjectP2294
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
Some random thoughts not related to any on-going discussions in this thread:

-I'm very happy to see Smith as the top candidate to lead off. I lost all my spreadsheets from last year that tracked this, but I'm pretty sure he led all returning players in pitches per plate appearance. I also think he's primed for a breakout and will hit somewhere in the .330 neighborhood.

-Mainieri is more progressive than anyone would ever think at first glance. He was one of the first coaches around the country to use the Undergrad Assistant role to expand the staff. One of the first to employ a video coordinator. Not one of the first, but very early on with having player development guy (Gibbs) and what essentially amounts to an analytics dept (Gibbs and Tutko, plus the student managers that help them with the tracking software).

-Our OF this year will be one of the most well rounded we've seen since 2015 or 2009.

-Our schedule is awesome. I like that we will be tested right away.

-My irrational exuberance tells me that out pitching is going to be very good this year. Caleb Gilbert is going to be a true Friday night ace all year, and people will still complain that Hess isn't throwing on Friday nights because WILD THING!

Joe Mantegna
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
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people will still complain that Hess isn't throwing on Friday nights because WILD THING!

I don't know, those Saturday night games at the box are going to be pretty rowdy if he sticks in that spot all year. That's pretty exciting to me.

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Brbengal
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
Who do you think develops into our closer?

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LSU Fan
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
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people will still complain that Hess isn't throwing on Friday

People will complain about Hess no matter what. I kinda wanted him to stay in as closer, but if they think he can pull through as a starter then whatever is best for the team. Everyone will have their opinion on what CPM needs to do with Hess.

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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
Maybe if Cam Sanders comes out and absolutely dominates and they think he can be a Saturday guy then Hess can slide back to the bullpen but that would absolutely be and if and only if Peterson has settled into the Sunday spot.

I agree with all of your points Project.

BayouBengals18
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
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"physics major." (BTW, nobody really believes that)

He actually does have a Physics degree.

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StickD
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
The Peterson from last year is a big question mark. I would hope we have another guy that we can try out Sunday if he isn’t throwing well.

Hess needs to start. He needs to command his pitches, know how to pace himself, and build up the mental and physical stamina to go 7, for us and for his shot in the bigs.

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Pappy82
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
Hey Adam: Thanks for giving us the the baseball preview. Always look forward to this right before the games begin.

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MorbidTheClown
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
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Ma’Khail Hilliard is the lightest player on this baseball team

ProjectP2294
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
Definitely some unintentional comedy there.

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ell_13
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
I sincerely give props to the work Adam puts in. And I sincerely disagree with him on a few points and those are the ones I make known. That’s what is often lost in a message board. Discussions don’t take place when people agree. I’m also aware that I come off as a dick. People probably expect it at this point.

Kim Jong Ir
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re: Baseball Preview: 2018 Edition Feb 10th - Pro Prospects and SEC Predictions
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I sincerely give props to the work Adam puts in.

You do and, yes, he puts a lot of time into his annual preview. I don't agree with everything he says either, but I read it and I enjoy it.

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