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re: Baseball players providing the best surprises and biggest disappointments after 3 games

Posted on 2/16/20 at 5:51 pm to
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
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Posted on 2/16/20 at 5:51 pm to
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One thing I'm confident of, with CC season ticket holders paying either $1,700 or $2,100 per ticket in just the Tradition Fund fees, those fans will give LSU an earful if they think there's a decline in the services of the Champion Club.


Indeed. ETA with Tradition Fund fees it was $2,090 and $2,490 this year. They better listen. Because of the reasons you pointed out, the benefit of Club tickets has diminished somewhat with beer sales throughout the stadium. They need to make up for it with better food.
This post was edited on 2/16/20 at 6:01 pm
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 2/16/20 at 6:03 pm to
Overall, I was happy about the effort the first two games.

My biggest takeaways from the weekend:

1. Cade Doughty is really good and I hope he continues to improve. He is going to be a good one.

2. Jaden Hill - Wow, if he stays healthy, the sky is the limit.

3. Nick Storz - great to see him out there throwing. I hope he can continue to improve. He will be a valuable weapon down the stretch.

Negatives:

1. Gio - looks lost at the plate. Misjudged a ball in the outfield, and just looked out of sync. I hope Hampton gets a start this week.

2. Dugas - looked hesitant in both the outfield and at 2B. Hopefully he can continue to improve.

3. CJ Willis - Where are you?
This post was edited on 2/16/20 at 6:04 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126940 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 6:04 pm to
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those are old numbers. It was $2,090 and $2,490 this year.
OOPS, sorry. I googled to find the cost and the first link that came up still has the numbers I posted.

Frankly, I bought the ticket for last night, which I got on StubHub Friday for $20 + $6 SH fees, was because I was afraid it would be cold sitting through 2 games of a double-header and I could go inside and warm up while watching the game on the TVs in the club.

As it turned out, the temperature for both games Saturday was fine and after I passed through the club to get to my seat I never went back inside again. Drakes didn't make any money off of me yesterday.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 6:13 pm to
I can't wait to watch New Mathis this season. Everything I've read about the guy leads me to think we have a masher at the hot corner and nobody realizes it yet.
Posted by Kim Jong Ir
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
52536 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 6:17 pm to
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OOPS, sorry. I googled to find the cost and the first link that came up still has the numbers I posted.


You were right. I didn't see that you said TF fees only. I edited.

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it would be cold sitting through 2 games of a double-header and I could go inside and warm up while watching the game on the TVs in the club.



This is a benefit of the Club. Is it worth the serious extra $? I don't know. That is why they need to step it up in other ways.
This post was edited on 2/16/20 at 7:53 pm
Posted by OG19
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 2/16/20 at 6:18 pm to
Like you, my favorite thing about opening weekend is being selective about what I decide to grossly overreact over, and what I decide to say “hey, it’s february” about. I reserve the right to do both.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/16/20 at 6:22 pm to
Gio didn’t really surprise me. He was disappointing but I think we all saw it coming.


Dugas however was surprising. I expected him to be batter at the plate.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 6:41 pm to
I don't want to overreact to the positive, or negatives, too much. Hopefully Mainieri doesn't either, but I don't think he will. There will probably be a lot of tinkering with this lineup in midweeks, as usual. Then from there, the weekend lineups will begin to slowly take shape.

Here's what I'm going to guess happens in the two midweek games.

1. Beloso stays at first.
2. Doughty stays in the lineup. Once at second, and I'm calling once at third.
3. Mathis spends a game at SS.
4. Hampton starts at least once in CF.
5. Toups starts at least one in LF.
6. Milazzo catches one of the midweeks.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 2/16/20 at 6:45 pm to
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1. Beloso stays at first



There is no one on this team who has a prayer of supplanting Beloso at first
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 6:47 pm to
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There is no one on this team who has a prayer of supplanting Beloso at first


Idk why I even typed that.

I was about to go through them all, position by position, then changed my mind and didn't erase Beloso.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18937 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 6:52 pm to
If I were setting the lineup I would have Bianco in LF and Cabrera in RF with

Toups, Gio, and Hampton battling for that CF spot.

The DH duty can be anyone with Garza catching and Garza when Milazzo is catching.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70079 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 6:55 pm to
Toups hard contact surprised me.

Then Hampton got up there and hit a foul ball that sounded more solid than some guys base hits. Hampton is one of those guys where it just sounds different when he makes contact.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18937 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 7:22 pm to
Yea he’s closer to getting playing time than I thought with the lack of assertiveness out of Gio and Dugas
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
20267 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 7:30 pm to
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If I were setting the lineup I would have Bianco in LF and Cabrera in RF with

Toups, Gio, and Hampton battling for that CF spot.

The DH duty can be anyone with Garza catching and Garza when Milazzo is catching.



Agreed.

I’d probably see if Dugas can get something going midweek this week too.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 8:07 pm to
Mathis didn't qualify as a surprise for me. He really only hit the ball hard once, as he had a couple of lucky hits. I was expecting a better weekend from him, after all the raving I've heard about him, but one weekend isn't enough for me to call him a disappointment. He just was a little bit off on his timing.

Other guys looked lost up there, but those particular guys kind of did what I expected, unfortunately. A lot of inexperienced guys needing more time, and others like Hal who have a history of hitting struggles.

Milazzo's hitting, though a small sample size, was a surprise. He seems to have a better idea at the plate, right now, than some of the guys who came in with much more fanfare. His ceiling isn't as high, but he showed a better eye.

I was disappointed in Marceaux's lack of command. He looked like first half Marceaux, from last year, again. I had heard that he ditched the curve in favor of a slider that was supposed to be sharper. I saw no evidence of a sharp slider. Not saying it doesn't exist, but since we're making one week observations, this was the biggest disappointment for me.

Edit- I should add that balls popped into the outfield do not qualify as quality contact, no matter what the exit velocity is, in my book. That's a very misleading stat. But Mathis was close. He'll be fine.
This post was edited on 2/16/20 at 8:22 pm
Posted by CBP3110
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/16/20 at 9:08 pm to
Mathis isn’t a surprise
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 9:44 pm to
If there is a sport you can’t draw conclusions after 3 games I’ll say baseball is it,
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278150 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 9:47 pm to
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Mathis didn't qualify as a surprise for me. He really only hit the ball hard once


He had three of the top 7 hardest hits of the weekend for LSU per Statcast data lol
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
5898 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 9:57 pm to
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He had three of the top 7 hardest hits of the weekend for LSU per Statcast data lol




I guess you forgot to read what I specifically said about exit velocity. Statcast measures the velocity off the bat, even if you hit the ball straight up. He only squared up one ball. Everything else was either a bloop, a roller, or hit high and shallow into the outfield. As I said, I do not consider that quality contact.

So if you want to split hairs with me for the sake of being a contrarian, I'll just say he only squared it up once. He got way under the ball a lot, as he was taking some big upper cuts. I think he may have been a little over anxious. I'm certainly not worried about him, long term. But this thread was about weekend observations.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278150 posts
Posted on 2/16/20 at 10:05 pm to
You don’t understand exit velocity. A ball hit straight into the air cannot have a high exit velocity

A high exit velocity directly correlates with squaring the baseball up.

This is a fact. I can’t be a contrarian over something that is scientific fact
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