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re: Auburn stuck with Pearl under fire, LSU fired Wade, hired a coach who can’t compete

Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:31 am to
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
20968 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:31 am to
This same thread over and over again is getting tiring.

In other news, LSU should have hired Spurrier when it had the chance.
Posted by savecf101
Member since Dec 2024
10 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:45 am to
Wade lied to his boss! Automatic reason for termination.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
2829 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:49 am to
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Wade isn’t on the same planet as Pearl as a coach. He’s taken two different programs who didn’t give a shite about basketball to the top tier of the sport and gotten Auburn to the Final 4.


Will Wade - LSU
2017-18 - 18-15 (2nd Round NIT)
2018-19 - 25-5 (Sweet 16) Wade suspended for tourney
2019-20 - 21-10 (Postseason Canceled)
2020-21 - 19-10 (Round of 32)
2021-22 - 22-11 (Round of 64) Wade fired for tourney

Bruce Pearl
Tennessee
2005-06 - 22-8 (Round of 32)
2006-07 - 24-11 (Sweet 16)
2007-08 - 31-5 (Sweet 16)
2008-09 - 21-13 (Round of 64)
2009-10 - 28-9 (Elite 8)

Auburn
2014-15 - 15-20
2015-16 - 11-20
2016-17 - 18-14
2017-18 - 26-8 (Round of 32)
2018-19 - 30-10 (Final 4)
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42889 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:57 am to
Bruce is also 22 years older than Wade.

When Pearl was coaching UT in 2005, he was 45 years old and Wade was 23 years old.

When Wade started at LSU, he was 35 years old.

For context in a different sport, Saban was 48 years old when he took over LSU.

Some dudes can't grasp that coaches can grow and get better over time. It's hilarious.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13296 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:57 am to
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Why don't we just shut it down?


Isn't that that what Woody did.
What is your projection of LSU Basketball with Woody/Mac.

Football is on the clock. If Kelly can't win with the millions recently spent, What then?
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
1070 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 1:09 pm to
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Wade never achieved anything close to the post season success that Pearl has had.


He never had the chance to because Alleva panicked like the bitch he is and suspended him for the whole SEC and NCAA Tournament in 19 when we were a top 3 seed and SEC champs, 2020 no tourney due to covid shutdown, 2021 we got a bad seed despite finishing as SEC Tourney runnerup, 2022 Woody fired Wade before the tournament and fricked with our MO and approach. It was all a waste of great talent and ability because of a sentence on a wiretap that was never proven and a bunch of unproven hearsay.
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
1070 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 1:11 pm to
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Auburn stuck with Pearl under fire


Expound on what this "fire" is

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LSU fired Wade, hired a coach who can’t compete


We really did it to protect the football program through the Vidal Alexander saga and Title 9 investigations, NCAA hated Wade and leveraged leveling the football program to get Woody to axe him.
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
1070 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 1:26 pm to
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It's not like a little child. It's that many see an opportunity this year to essentially re-start where LSU basketball left off when Wade was fired.

Wade is doing extremely well at McNeese while McMahon and the LSU basketball program are floundering with no end in site. Wade is eventually going to get another power conf. job. More likely sooner rather than later. Kelvin Sampson got the Houston job despite putting two schools (Oklahoma and Indiana) on probation and getting himself a "show cause" penalty. Bruce Pearl was essentially blackballed in the coaching profession when he called a recruit and secretly recorded him suggesting Illinois had paid him to sign with Illinois which Pearl then turned into the NCAA. Pearl then got Tennessee put on probation and himself a "show cause" penalty. Auburn still hired him. Wade's show cause is over after this year.

Winners who cheat still get jobs. Losers who "do it right" don't. That may not seem "right", but that is reality.

Wade had the most consistent period of winning LSU basketball experienced since the early 90's. He knows and is still well liked by the donor class (unless you are naïve enough to think he was winning recruiting battles against Kentucky, North Carolina, Indiana, Auburn, Arizona, etc completely with money out of his own pocket). That is more important now than ever before given having enough money to buy a roster is mandatory. To that end, there is no risk of a repeat transgression at LSU because conversations involving paying players no longer have to be secret. They are NECESSARY.

Outside of men (including Wade) setting aside their egos and any hard feelings, there is no logical reason to not bring him back to LSU after this year. He would immediately inject life back into a lifeless program (which would = increase revenues). He fully embraces the new NIL/transfer landscape, and he has already proven he can compete with the best HCs in the SEC. He's beaten Oats, Pearl, Barnes, Calipari, and Buzz Williams multiple times. By contrast, McMahon is 3-15 against that group.

For Wade he would get to jump right back in to where he left off from a support/donor perspective instead of having to build a major program and relationships with major donors elsewhere. For LSU they get to essentially pretend this current 3 year waste of time never happened.

If LSU doesn't at least consider rehiring Wade it will be for no other reason but hubris and pride


Dude, YES! I completely agree with all of this! I am totally with you because he would crush it in this NIL landscape, increase revenue for our program, and revive LSU men's basketball interest writ-large while restoring us to our most consistent success since his first stint here and the Chris Jackson/Shaq years.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2730 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:20 pm to
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One AD had balls, the other bent over for the NCAA like a good little boy.

Basically sums up what happened.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
5951 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:23 pm to
Pearl had to take a two year vacation from Tennessee
They didn'tt stick with him at all
He had a show cause against him
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42889 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 3:47 pm to
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Auburn stuck with Pearl under fire, LSU fired Wade, hired a coach who can’t compete
quote:

Pearl had to take a two year vacation from Tennessee They didn'tt stick with him at all He had a show cause against him
Don’t think OP said anything about UT.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3771 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 4:07 pm to
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frick you and the high horse you rode in on. All those things are legal now


But weren’t then.

quote:

if LSU had told the NCAA to frick off, we’d still have Wade with no sanctions


You don’t know that.

At the time this went down, the NCAA was threatening sanctions against the football program.

Risk was bigger than the reward.
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