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re: Are these basketball additions really gonna make a difference?
Posted on 5/2/25 at 1:12 pm to Alt26
Posted on 5/2/25 at 1:12 pm to Alt26
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The players LSU has currently signed in the portal aren't necessarily "bad". But, like you noted, it isn't reflective a significant increase relative to prior signing classes.
Which only sets Coach up for failure. Just fire him and move on. Don't say we are gonna spend what it takes to win and not do it. It doesn't matter who the coach is if we don't spend.
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 1:33 pm to chadr07
Besides your straw man how many All-Americans do you think there are? Are you being intentionally stupid?
Posted on 5/2/25 at 1:39 pm to Tigershine
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These are the exact type of players we see balling out at Auburn (Broome, Sears) , Or Tn (Knecht, Vescovi), UF (Clayton). Yet y'all are willing to count out the LSU transfers from the get go.
All of those teams have MUCH better coaches.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:11 pm to drizztiger
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so teams are built year to year with new squads? How does that mesh with year zero / whole new team nonsense?
well obviously things were different then. that's why cook had to sit out, you were limited in how many transfers. now you have many players that transfer every year. didn't have that back then it was far more limited.
This post was edited on 5/2/25 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:15 pm to Alt26
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The NIL narrative
so its not true that NIL was low relative to the league and is now more?
Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:52 pm to Tigershine
Since you (along with all the other mcmaniacs) appear to be slow in the learning department:
Watch NC State and LSU over the next few years. Pay close attention to which of the coaches heading these programs can coach, and which one can't.
The contrast couldn't possibly be any more obvious, and that's why the Wade lovers as you call us, are MOTHERFLUCKING PISSED!!!
There's no good reason we couldn't have stood by him and then stayed at or near the top of the SEC REGULARLY.
Watch NC State and LSU over the next few years. Pay close attention to which of the coaches heading these programs can coach, and which one can't.
The contrast couldn't possibly be any more obvious, and that's why the Wade lovers as you call us, are MOTHERFLUCKING PISSED!!!
There's no good reason we couldn't have stood by him and then stayed at or near the top of the SEC REGULARLY.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:55 pm to chadr07
Just look at the Women’s Program…the transfers Kim gets and goes after change programs….we aren’t even in the discussion for those types of players.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:55 pm to drizztiger
quote:So you have nothing. Tell me how he doesn't develop talent.
Everything you ever say is some made up bullshite to defend CoachMc at all costs. He's a terrific recruiter, developer of talent, and Xs and Os genius. 40 SEC losses in 3 years is a mirage.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:59 pm to mmcgrath
Pahahaha!!
Posted on 5/2/25 at 3:51 pm to jamarr
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so its not true that NIL was low relative to the league and is now more?
There is no way to actually prove it. NIL figures are largely just conjecture and hearsay. It's not like pro sports where the contracts have to be approved by the league, thus there is actual evidence of the dollar amounts. for lack of a better term, NIL figures are basically what someone (or a few someone) say they are.
But we can look to circumstantial evidence. That evidence show the guys LSU has signed in this cycle are generally (according to the rankings) in line with the guys they've signed in previous cycles.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 4:15 pm to mmcgrath
I’m reading all this stuff about development of players? Not saying you’re wrong, but can u give me a few examples? Of a player go up from 4ppg to 7ppg, is this “Development” or is it really just a player maturing from year 1 to year 2, getting stronger and the game slowing down a little? Maybe I’m missing something or it’s slipping my mind, but who has taken a significant leap from let’s say year 1 to year 3? Might be hard to say being the only player to not transfer on us is basically Reed.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 4:25 pm to Primeminister337
quote:One poster claimed he does not develop players. I think we can see clear development in the following players year to year:
I’m reading all this stuff about development of players?
Jalen Reed
Tre Hannibal
Tyrell Ward
Posted on 5/2/25 at 4:30 pm to mmcgrath
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Tyrell Ward
Are you really going to use Ward as an example to make your argument? Not only did McMahon run Ward off but seemed to be caught flat footed when Ward stepped away a week or so before the start of the season. Some development made there.
Please give specifics on the development of Reed and Hannibal (you might have an argument for Tre actually). Otherwise, punch out for the day.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 4:35 pm to mmcgrath
Reeds game hasn’t developed at all, he’s just gotten bigger and stronger. Ward sat the bench then was forced into heavier minutes because of Cook quitting for about 3 weeks then was benched again and had to leave. Hannibal was played out of position until Cook quit then had a good month or two in multiple seasons for McMahon. We”ll see if Reed improves next year but so far he hasn’t developed anybody
This post was edited on 5/2/25 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 5/2/25 at 4:38 pm to Alt26
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There is no way to actually prove it
I have no real reason to doubt it.
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That evidence show the guys LSU has signed in this cycle are generally (according to the rankings) in line with the guys they've signed in previous cycles.
whatever rankings you use to compare don't necessarily correlate with the cost of the players.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 4:54 pm to jamarr
I’m gonna try and be fair here. I’m excluding Ward cause of the whole transfer thing and playing time Fiasco. So I’ll give ya Reed for these reasons:
Fg %. 3pt%
39%. 29%
51%. 39%
60%. 50%
So as he has developed in his ability to take better shots and be more consistent. That being said, year 3 he only played 8 games so it’s hard to tell without any numbers from SEC play. What’s puzzling is career wise he has averaged under 5 shot attempts a game. I’d like to see him be more of. Focal point, cause as of right now, Coach Mac’s biggest development is gonna end up as just a good role player
Fg %. 3pt%
39%. 29%
51%. 39%
60%. 50%
So as he has developed in his ability to take better shots and be more consistent. That being said, year 3 he only played 8 games so it’s hard to tell without any numbers from SEC play. What’s puzzling is career wise he has averaged under 5 shot attempts a game. I’d like to see him be more of. Focal point, cause as of right now, Coach Mac’s biggest development is gonna end up as just a good role player
Posted on 5/2/25 at 5:03 pm to Primeminister337
But if ya really wanna sell us on development, turn Rees into a walking Double Double cause this should be the year a player breaks out. He’s gotta be able to rebound better and shoot more. If he truley is gonna be “the guy” he’s gotta be more confident which in turn leads to being more aggressive.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 5:04 pm to Primeminister337
Compare those recruited under McMahon’s ranking to their production. Every single one of them has underperformed, everyone. Now go back to the groups prior to McMahon, almost all of them over performed. There is no data to support the development narrative, it’s just the latest fanboy fantasy since all the others have been debunked.
Posted on 5/2/25 at 5:14 pm to Madking
The part that worries me, career wise is we are putting a lot of eggs in one basket when talking about Reed, cause statistically, he’s averaging almost identical numbers career wise in points and rebounds as Marlon Taylor did, who was our 5th option as a starter. Which kinda fits my worry as Coach Mac’s biggest development thus far is a glorified role player. But, I’m gonna try and be positive and see what happens this year
Posted on 5/2/25 at 5:15 pm to Safety Blitz
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I’m not believing the talent will be that different.
I don't think that's the issue.
Not saying it is the issue (I am saying it's part of it) but if he had half the passion his wife does at home games we'd be in the top half of the conference at least.
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