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re: Are expectations so low now, that some are legit upset at talk of getting a proven coach?

Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70803 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:04 pm to
What you just said amounts to “if you don’t agree with my opinions I have the right to call you whatever I want to without validating any recourse”

You maybe the most pompous, self righteous, delusional arse to ever grace this board.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17747 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:05 pm to
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I can be optimistic yet still know that Jimbo Fisher is a better coach than Ed Orgeron which is what the discussion was about. These eggheaded sunshine pumpers can’t make that distinction or separate their feeling from objective analysis. That’s what causes the arguments.

Bingo. We all have different opinions. If someone loves Orgeron, that's fine. However, it's all or nothing for many Orgeron supporters. Total support, or frick off fake fan.

I have nothing personal against Orgeron. I think he's doing a nice job. I just don't see us being tangibly closer to winning championships yet. And he hasn't accomplished much to suggest he will get us there.

It's not really a controversial stance to believe Jimbo is a better coach at the moment, based on his accomplishments.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31413 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:05 pm to
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It’s better to throw a party over a 29-0 loss or a beating at the hands of Troy the way you do?

The Madking is so mad he cant even express is thoughts coherently. His dumb Madking arse even up voted himself.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:07 pm to
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They don't give a frick about the damage it would do to the program and the setback it would be for this season.

No one has remotely suggested this for the coming year. Seriously, calm down dude. We know some have high expectations next year, but we also know Herman, Malzhan, Mullen, Saban, and Jimbo are on their way. I'm just not that optimistic, and expect 3 losses or more again
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38672 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:08 pm to
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That's the only solution many of our "fans" propose. Somewhere out there are coaches for all of our men and women teams in all sports who will lead us to undefeated seasons forever and anything less than that is considered to be accepting low expectations. Of course, only a competent athletic director can locate and hire these coaches.

It won't matter who our AD is; it won't matter who our coaches are. These "fans" will complain.


Not true. Or not completely. There are always "fire the coach, put in the second string Qb" fans. that's not what this is.

We just had one of the most infuriatingly hard headed coaches that has probably ever walked through the game. Look I liked Miles a lot, but he struggled to connect "on the field" with fans after some time. And then when he got shalacked on 1/9 and basically packed it in and doubled down, he was good enough to win 8-10 games every single year, but it was clear he was never going to be elite again. BUT not only was Les likable off the field, he was winning enough games to keep some happy....for some time. Fans became restless, because we thought we were more elite....


Then we go and hire a completely unqualified head coach, who comes in, basically replicates that formula sans the poor relation to the fans via football games because it seems like he "listens" (read: will do anything the masses say to placate them. All 15 offenses worth), and is suddenly heralded as doing a great job and apparently is going to get 4-5 years of a chance.

It was never a good idea to hire O, and we're at best, slightly above a Miles team. That's frustrating for some. O has shown little separation from his peers....just like late career Les Miles.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 10:09 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70803 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:08 pm to
Sorry you can’t read or come up with anyway to defend the stupid smoldering hot takes you spewed earlier but lying and making ignorant proclamations won’t gain you any respect from anyone. Maybe try the more sports board, there are a lot of ignorant children there you’d fit in much better.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 10:09 pm
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31413 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:11 pm to
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Sorry you can’t read or come up with anyway to defend the stupid smoldering hot takes you spewed earlier but lying and making ignorant proclamations won’t gain you any respect from anyone. Maybe try the more sports board, there are a lot of ignorant children there you’d fit in much better.

Self awareness isn't your thing. Sad little Madking.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 10:13 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87411 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:11 pm to
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No one has remotely suggested this for the coming year.
Remotely? Did you read your own title?
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:12 pm to
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Madking
What you just said amounts to “if you don’t agree with my opinions I have the right to call you whatever I want to without validating any recourse”

You maybe the most pompous, self righteous, delusional arse to ever grace this board



You're one of the dumbest people on this board. your opinion counts for shite.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:13 pm to
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oh we didn’t want those guys anyway I was just kiddin



Its amazing how all the posters that told us," recruiting rankings are bs" are the same ones touting recruiting rankings last year and next
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 10:23 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:15 pm to
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Bingo. We all have different opinions. If someone loves Orgeron, that's fine. However, it's all or nothing for many Orgeron supporters. Total support, or frick off fake fan.


Yep.

I'm used to it by now though.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17747 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:15 pm to
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No one has remotely suggested this for the coming year. Seriously, calm down dude. We know some have high expectations next year, but we also know Herman, Malzhan, Mullen, Saban, and Jimbo are on their way.

Right. Your OP is merely calling out those who are getting bent by the suggestion of a potential change in the future.

No one is calling for Orgeron's head right now. Unfortunately, some of the usual suspects on here will interpret things their own way so they can get mad about it.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31413 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:15 pm to
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What you just said amounts to “if you don’t agree with my opinions I have the right to call you whatever I want to without validating any recourse”

You maybe the most pompous, self righteous, delusional arse to ever grace this board

Madking lacks self awareness. Doesn't realized he described himself.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16174 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:15 pm to
opened this this thread thinking it was going to be about the baseball program and Marineri. You seem retarded.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70803 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:16 pm to
Sorry but that’s what you said being dismissive followed with anger shows your guilt.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70803 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:18 pm to
Did I really hurt you so bad that you’re just gonna follow me around like a whipped dog throwing any insult you can think of, and some you just copy, against the wall hoping one will stick? Are you so pathetic that you think teaming up with someone els will give your stupid comments weight? You poor ignorant child.. I’d throw in an emoji but I’m not gay.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 10:24 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:19 pm to
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Remotely? Did you read your own title?

I wrote it

I was specifically pointing out that when posters in other threads mentioned Jimbo not having a buyout, and close ties to Woodward, and a proven record, heads exploded on how great of a coach Orgeron was

Which is why I wrote "Are expectations so low now" that if Ed piles up another 3+ loss season, why are people angry about replacing him? Hes never had a season with less than 3 losses, so its not like I'm making up facts out of thin air, btw
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:20 pm to
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Bingo. We all have different opinions. If someone loves Orgeron, that's fine. However, it's all or nothing for many Orgeron supporters. Total support, or frick off fake fan.

I have nothing personal against Orgeron. I think he's doing a nice job. I just don't see us being tangibly closer to winning championships yet. And he hasn't accomplished much to suggest he will get us there.

It's not really a controversial stance to believe Jimbo is a better coach at the moment, based on his accomplishments



None of what you post is relevant at all. You don't believe that coach O can get the team to a championship. He's going to get his chance whether you like it or not. If he doesn't produce he'll have to move on. Apparently you haven't read the thread or you can't read. Earlier in the thread I said that I would hire jimbo before O everytime but I would never consider firing O while he was doing well to replace him with jimbo. Some of you couldn't seem to understand what I said. Apparently you and others have reading comprehension problems. Does that sound like someone that is a so-called O lover?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70803 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:20 pm to
These guys get themselves into more paradoxical arguments than any group I’ve ever seen. Then when you point out the hypocrisy they throw fits and derail the thread. I mean we literally had 0s two kids trying to tell us 0 was a better coach than Jimbo Fisher lol.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:22 pm to
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What you just said amounts to “if you don’t agree with my opinions I have the right to call you whatever I want to without validating any recourse”

You maybe the most pompous, self righteous, delusional arse to ever grace this board

Madking lacks self awareness. Doesn't realized he described himself



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