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re: Are expectations so low now, that some are legit upset at talk of getting a proven coach?

Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:22 pm to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:22 pm to
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It was never a good idea to hire O, and we're at best, slightly above a Miles team. That's frustrating for some. O has shown little separation from his peers....just like late career Les Miles.


I think this is the sticking point for me.

When Miles was trying his hardest, he was competing for NCs. This is the current coach trying his hardest, and he's barely better than the end of Miles's tenure. I guess we'll see this year if anything changes.

I don't think that being skeptical about that happening makes you a bad fan. But as someone else pointed out, it's all or nothing with some of these fans of the football coach.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 10:23 pm
Posted by SaintInBham
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2015
1176 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:23 pm to
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just won a fiesta bowl


I stopped reading right there. UCF with a QB playing his second game. And by the way, add another 2 minutes on the clock and that game probably ends very differently.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:24 pm to
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These guys get themselves into more paradoxical arguments than any group I’ve ever seen. Then when you point out the hypocrisy they throw fits and derail the thread. I mean we literally had 0s two kids trying to tell us 0 was a better coach than Jimbo Fisher lol






Holy fricking shite you are stupid.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31413 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:25 pm to
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Madking

Is an apt handle. You literally are mad, delusional and now paranoid. No one is following you around. You will be okay. Repeat to yourself "everyday in everyway I am getting better and better". Good luck to you sad little Madking.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:25 pm to
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’t understand the O hate I really don’t...obviously if he goes 9-3 or worse next year I’ll understand but give him this year I really think we will go 11-1 this year plus our 2020 recruiting class will most likely be top 3 I just don’t get the hate


Questioning a coach's ability to win titles isnt hate.
There is absolutely zero evidence that O can have sustained success as a coordinator, let alone as HC.

Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:25 pm to
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just won a fiesta bowl


I stopped reading right there. UCF with a QB playing his second game. And by the way, add another 2 minutes on the clock and that game probably ends very differently



As dumb as your post is I'm surprised that could read that far.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70803 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:25 pm to
It’s amazing how they try to hold a 2019 fiesta bowl victory over SEC titles or even actual BCS bowl victories. The amount of bending they do to reality is staggering.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17747 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:26 pm to
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You don't believe that coach O can get the team to a championship.

True.
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He's going to get his chance whether you like it or not.

I'm aware. He's had his chance since 2016. I already said he's doing a nice job.
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Earlier in the thread I said that I would hire jimbo before O everytime

Also irrelevant. Don't care.
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but I would never consider firing O while he was doing well to replace him with jimbo.

Me neither.
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Apparently you and others have reading comprehension problems.

Apparently you're blind.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70803 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:26 pm to
Keep trying, sooner or later someone will notice you and talk to you.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70803 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:29 pm to
Not one single person had made a derogatory or insulting comment about 0, not one yet they must use hyperbolic labels to enforce their narrative. Since it isn’t real every bit of it has to be dressed up and made to look like what it isn’t.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:29 pm to
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Ed Orgeron isn't getting fired tomorrow. But the belief in fearless leader is yours and yours alone. I'll buy him when LSU wins a championship. 


Period. Until then, he is being evaluated. Why can you not grasp that?


What's funny is that the last coach was still labeled a bad coach after having one of the most accomplished tenures in sec history

Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:31 pm to
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Earlier in the thread I said that I would hire jimbo before O everytime

Also irrelevant. Don't care.
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but I would never consider firing O while he was doing well to replace him with jimbo



If you knew that I wasn't really an O lover and that I would hire jimbo first why did you attempt to justify me being called an O lover?
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 10:32 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:31 pm to
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Great recruiting


He is averaging as the 5th best recruiting class in the sec the last 2 years.
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He’s here now so why not give the man a chance?
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31413 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:33 pm to
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Keep trying, sooner or later someone will notice you and talk to you.

You keep noticing me and talking to me.

Poor sad little Madking.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:34 pm to
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What's funny is that the last coach was still labeled a bad coach after having one of the most accomplished tenures in sec history


No amount of results can compete with the human imagination.

People imagine all of these accolades and future results with the current football coach, and that's much more exciting to think about than results with others that have already happened.

I've never seen someone praised so much for not really accomplishing anything. He absolutely has a given talent for selling the future. It's probably why he's such an effective recruiter.
This post was edited on 4/18/19 at 10:36 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38672 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:34 pm to
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See, this is what people are irate about. Orgeron gets credit for having a better record … all because he didn't lose to a non-P5 team.

Unbelievable, that fans see it as improvement, for not losing to Troy. Had he beaten Troy, then everyone would be right in saying that his program was becoming stagnant. Yet, he loses to Troy, and he gets credit for not repeating the worst debacle in his career.

He should have never lost that game, and thusly should not be given credit for improving his record.


Amen.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:34 pm to
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It’s amazing how they try to hold a 2019 fiesta bowl victory over SEC titles or even actual BCS bowl victories. The amount of bending they do to reality is staggering



You brain damaged imbecile the fiesta bowl was a bcs bowl and still pays out like one. They don't have bcs bowls anymore.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17747 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:35 pm to
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If you knew that I wasn't really an O lover and that I would hire jimbo first why did you attempt to justify me being called an O lover?

Do you have me confused with someone else, Ben?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:39 pm to
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don't hate jimbo at all. I simply despise some of our dumbass fans though


Hey Ben, where was this despising during the last coach's tenure?
You know the coach that has actually won something of note?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 4/18/19 at 10:44 pm to
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I’m sorry you’re stupid and can’t see trends between play on the field and recruiting.





Coach A
lost to bama and AT LEAST 2 more inferior teams.
Had a shite offense
Was a great recruiter
Was a great motivator

Couch B
Lost to bama and ATLEAST 2 more inferior teams.
Had a shite offense
Was a great recruiter
Was a great motivator


Which one is Miles and which one is O?
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