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re: Are Ark. fans are upset that their coach didn't LET LSU score at the end?
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:15 am to tigerfoot
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:15 am to tigerfoot
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Pittman discusses this. He thought that after LSU called TO on first that they would not score. Thought their best chance was force a fumble or block FG.
Pittman should’ve been smart enough to let Diggs score on 1st down. He would’ve had the 1:45ish to score a TD and 2pt to win. Given LSU’s defensive woes, that seemed like decent odds. Way better than hoping to block or have LSU miss a 20yd FG.
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Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:35 am to Yeahright
Coach Pitt was concerned if he let LSU score quickly LSU would follow with a successful onside kick.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:36 am to paulb52
quote:This is unlikely on 1st down, considering how instinctive football is to players at this level; but it could have been coached up in the first timeout, if LSU handed off again (as we did).
You would think LSU running backs would stop and go down just short of goal line and let clock run. Of course, Arkansas defense could drag him over goal line.
Like others, I think the more irritating part was calling the timeout after 2nd down. They could have lined up, took a knee on 3rd down and ran the clock down, and called that TO with 3 seconds. At that point, the final play is the FG, you don't get a kickoff (with our shitty kick coverage team) and one Hail Mary from a guy with maybe the strongest arm in the SEC.
And speaking from the perspective of an also Saints fan, I wonder: if we swapped days, and the LSU game was played AFTER the Saints game, does Kelly go ahead and punch it in, instead of relying on the kicker?
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:37 am to Yeahright
The running play was to eat clock
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:40 am to BabyTac
No Arkansas had one shot to score. They could not have tried to score on the kickoff and ran a play if it didnt work. There wasnt enough time left.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:44 am to Yeahright
Knowing we were laying down, Hogs should have carried Diggs in to score. I would have hit the floor laughing if they did.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:50 am to Reeaholic
quote:
one shot to score
One too many. Inexcusable.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 10:56 am to STEVED00
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Pittman should’ve been smart enough to let Diggs score on 1st down.
Diggs was never going into the endzone. It would have been hilarious to see Arky defenders just stand up or not move and Diggs slide down at the one.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 11:30 am to nicholastiger
quote:
I don't think LSU would have scored, they would have gone down
Then why run it at all and risk a fumble. They were trying to score. I don’t care what they say. It makes no sense otherwise.
They ran the ball from the 7, then from the 4, ultimately kicking a left hash 20-yd FG from the 3.
If you are really just killing clock, would it not be better to lower the fumble risk, kneel the ball squarely in the middle of the field, and kick about a 26-yarder from dead center?
I think they want safe plays (not passes or edge runs that could lose yardage) that could maybe score and would happily have taken a first or second down TD.
Otherwise the risk (though minor) of running it there makes no sense.
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 11:32 am
Posted on 9/25/23 at 11:47 am to jeffsdad
quote:
wonder how long an offensive player can just stand near the goalline without scoring when the defensive player refuses to tackle them?
He could just fall down
Posted on 9/25/23 at 11:55 am to STEVED00
Dude if we weren’t trying to score we were really damn bad at how we did it. Diggs ran hard as shite into the defenders at the 3 yard line twice. All the defenders had to do was easily drag him and fall into the end zone if they wanted
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 11:57 am
Posted on 9/25/23 at 11:56 am to STEVED00
quote:again he thought they would slide prior. He was trying to get ball back.
Pittman should’ve been smart enough to let Diggs score on 1st down.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 11:58 am to tigerfoot
quote:This makes zero sense
again he thought they would slide prior. He was trying to get ball back.
If he thought lsu was going to not score on purpose, he had zero chance to get the ball back at all outside of Kelly mismanaging the clock like he did
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 11:59 am
Posted on 9/25/23 at 12:01 pm to lsupride87
quote:I thought they tackled him.
thought lsu was going to not score on purpose, he had zero chance to get the ball back at all outside of Kelly mismanaging the clock like he did
At the point Pittman thought LSU was going to try to not score. He had two choices. Hit the carrier and try to get a turnover. Or let him slide untouched
What doesn’t make sense there? What are you missing?
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 9/25/23 at 12:04 pm to Quatrepot
quote:You don’t need to eat clock
The running play was to eat clock
1:45 and it’s 1st down
You kneel
2nd down
Run the clock down to 1:05 and kneel again
3rd down
Run the clock down to 30 seconds and kneel again
4th down -wait til 3 seconds left and call a timeout.
Kelly was trying to score regardless of any being he says. There was zero need to run the ball if you weren’t trying to score
Posted on 9/25/23 at 12:06 pm to tigerfoot
quote:you are missing the part where it was painfully obvious lsu was trying to score. Diggs was running full speed shoulder down into defenders at the 3 yard line. Arkansas defenders could have easily had Diggs in the end zone with them
Hit the carrier and try to get a turnover. Or let him slide untouched What doesn’t make sense there? What are you missing?
LSU mismanaged the situation, but Arkansas was far worse
This post was edited on 9/25/23 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 9/25/23 at 12:07 pm to Yeahright
No they expected LSU to take a knee. Upset at the phantom false start at LSU one yard line and the host of other penalties and wasted time outs. Otherwise, they say they were the better team.
Posted on 9/25/23 at 12:07 pm to lsupride87
Completely agree
Posted on 9/25/23 at 12:13 pm to lsupride87
quote:ok. That’s your opinion. The topic was why Pitt did what he did.
you are missing the part where it was painfully obvious lsu was trying to score. Diggs was running full speed shoulder down into defenders at the 3 yard line. Arkansas defenders could have easily had Diggs in the end zone with them LSU mismanaged the situation, but Arkansas was far worse
Posted on 9/25/23 at 12:14 pm to lsupride87
quote:except the clock stopping on incompletion
Kelly was trying to score regardless of any being he says. There was zero need to run the ball if you weren’t trying to score
That’s a pretty big reason
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