Are analysts overrated?

I guess Orgeron needs more sons to have more analysts.

I think the hours are probably exhausting- I’d imagine you don’t stay an analysts very long. Probably a thankless job

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Have our numbers dropped off or are they not as important as advertised?

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You can have all the information in the world, but if you can’t apply it, it’s useless.

Analysts definitely help teams win, but they aren’t that important. If you’re relying on analysts to win you’re fricked

didn’t read whole thread before responding, so apologize if someone else already said this.


Bama has had guys like Butch Jones (former head coach that had some success in FBS) as an analyst.

We have guys named Orgeron and other former Mandeville HS guys as ours.

so is it the number, or the quality of the analyst that matters?

Depends on how you use them... IF you use them.

And that utilization isn't just on the analysts, it's on the coaches too.

Look at it this way: Assuming you DON'T use your analysts as auxiliary media guys, a group of them compile from film study and playcall charting tendencies of an opponent. Great, that's one of their roles. And then a coach who needs that info decides he's been doing this so long he doesn't need a 30 yr old "numbers guy" to tell him how to do his job. Then even if that analyst is doing his job, his job isn't adding to the bottom line.

So no analysts aren't overrated. They need to be supervised for sure. They need clear cut direction- are you doing tendencies? How about opponent scouting? How about self scouting? Maybe you're focused on individual development (e.g. checking an OTs kick slide vs. his form and upper body leverage using film). What does the coach need is the overriding question. And then that coach has to use it.

To me individual development, using the best available technology and nutrition to make the player better is #1. But second to that is knowing what your opponent is likely to do under each set of conditions is invaluable.

So much of football is robbing Peter to pay Paul. Move that safety up, attack behind him. RB is going to stay in and block to the strong side, delay blitz on the weak side. There's a lot of guess work on both sides of that. If you can minimize the guesses and increase the odds and make your move before your opponent adjusts, you have a huge advantage.

That's what analysts can give you about 80% of the way to a deliverable.

Lol there were so many articles in late 2019 about how LSU was becoming some cutting edge program ahead of everyone else with the "analytics" and the shadow staff.


A lot of guys did leave after 2019 though. And our best offensive analyst left this year too.

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there were so many articles in late 2019 about how LSU was becoming some cutting edge program ahead of everyone else with the "analytics" and the shadow staff.


A lot of guys did leave after 2019 though. And our best offensive analyst left this year too.

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Maybe there is something to it then and it's not overrated

I’m thinking analysts have done great work in Tuscaloosa. Analysts for LSU in 2020 and 2021? Not so much.

Our Tigers were definitely not prepared for season openers against Mississippi State and UCLA… crap job by Pellini and poor job by all for the bruins

In 2019 Ed bragged about the staff having an extensive personal breakdown of each team months in advance from the analyst. Man imagined if he would have promoted from that pool like Saban Too. You would have had more guys wanting to be analyst as well.


If he promotes Russ Callaway in 2020 you could make a real argument he still has his job.