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re: Anyone surprised LSU offense played better than LSU’s defense and special teams?
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:46 pm to MikeTheTiger71
Posted on 9/7/22 at 10:46 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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The lack of possessions falls primarily on the defense.
I wont act like the defense played great and they definately needed to get off the field but the offense having 122 yards of offense midway through the 3rd quarter and going 5 for 11 on 3rd down is just as at fault for top as the defense.
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Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:01 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I wont act like the defense played great and they definately needed to get off the field but the offense having 122 yards of offense midway through the 3rd quarter and going 5 for 11 on 3rd down is just as at fault for top as the defense
They had only had 4 possessions up to that point and moved into the red zone on two of them. Yes, they probably should have scored more than 3, but it wasn’t a general lack of effectiveness. It was a bad snap, a penalty and Boutte not looking for the ball. They more than made up for the missed opportunities by going 3 for 3 on TDs to end the game. Overall, that was a good performance.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:12 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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The point is the ineptness of the offense the vast majority of the game.
They weren’t on the field the vast majority of the game up to that point. They had had 4 possessions prior to that and 3 possessions after that. I wouldn’t call that the vast majority of the game.
Posted on 9/7/22 at 11:17 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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Overall, that was a good performance.
Agree to disagree but i get your points.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 12:05 am to Rickdaddy4188
Defense held FSU out of the red zone the entire first half and gave up zero points after a muffed punt gave FSU the ball inside the red zone. As usual the people claiming LSU only having 8 possessions was such a disadvantage don’t even bother to see that FSU only had 9 and two of those were from muffed punts. These narratives are being constructed for a reason and I’m sure you can guess what that is.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 12:13 am to MikeTheTiger71
Each team had 4 possessions in the first half. FSU had 5 in the second half we had 4. FSU got 2 of those possessions from muffed punts which means our D held them to 7 while we had 8 and should have had 10.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 12:28 am
Posted on 9/8/22 at 5:46 am to TrueTigerTale
Dude,
Without Daniels 114 ish yard rushing LSU only had about 25 yards running. No, I can't say the offense was better than the defense. In fact holding a team to 24 these days should give you a very good chance to win.
This was mostly about special teams. LSU might have gotten away with a sluggish offense if not for special teams play.
Without Daniels 114 ish yard rushing LSU only had about 25 yards running. No, I can't say the offense was better than the defense. In fact holding a team to 24 these days should give you a very good chance to win.
This was mostly about special teams. LSU might have gotten away with a sluggish offense if not for special teams play.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 6:12 am to zoom
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The D looked like what happened under miles where they eventually got tired.
That’s because they couldn’t get off the field. 3rd down defense was as bad as last year, and the year before.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 6:17 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
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Without Daniels 114 ish yard rushing LSU only had about 25 yards running. No, I can't say the offense was better than the defense. In fact holding a team to 24 these days should give you a very good chance to win. This was mostly about special teams. LSU might have gotten awa
Once LSU went uptempo, the offense lit it up! At no point in the game did anyone see the LSU defense light it up and take control.
This game made me more concerned about LSU’s defensive front and linebackers than the offense and Oline.
This post was edited on 9/8/22 at 6:21 am
Posted on 9/8/22 at 6:25 am to Madking
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As usual the people claiming LSU only having 8 possessions was such a disadvantage don’t even bother to see that FSU only had 9
You do realize that works against your point that the defense played well, right?
Posted on 9/8/22 at 6:26 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
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Without Daniels 114 ish yard rushing LSU only had about 25 yards running. No, I can't say the offense was better than the defense.
Daniels wasn’t part of the offense?
Posted on 9/8/22 at 6:33 am to MikeTheTiger71
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Daniels wasn’t part of the offense
That's stupid.
With a solid run game and Dainels getting even 70 yards scrambling. Along with the running backs getting what average SEC teams rush for, points would come.25 yard is going to get it done.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 6:57 am to MikeTheTiger71
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Without Daniels 114 ish yard rushing LSU only had about 25 yards running. No, I can't say the offense was better than the defense.
Daniels wasn’t part of the offense?
Daniels really showed what a threat he is to defenses in scoring 3 TD’s and running for 114 yards. I keep asking who dominated on LSU’s defensive side, but I keep asking.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:03 am to TrueTigerTale
House refused to make adjustments. I'm deeply concerned there was urgency to try to mix things up. Playing 8 yards off the receiver and D line playing off the ball as well really hurt.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:13 am to TrueTigerTale
I am not surprised that the offense performed the best of the three.
I am surprised at how much basic execution in special teams fell off in one season. I get the kickers having some inconsistency, but the blocking and muffs were not expected.
I didn’t expect the overall defense to be amazing because of how big a switch it is to go to playing zone as our base defense. I was hoping the DL play might balance it out. They did well, but not well enough to mask all of the problems.
I did think the back 7 would be further along than they are. The Safeties and LBs really struggled at diagnosing pass plays and closing space in time.
I am surprised at how much basic execution in special teams fell off in one season. I get the kickers having some inconsistency, but the blocking and muffs were not expected.
I didn’t expect the overall defense to be amazing because of how big a switch it is to go to playing zone as our base defense. I was hoping the DL play might balance it out. They did well, but not well enough to mask all of the problems.
I did think the back 7 would be further along than they are. The Safeties and LBs really struggled at diagnosing pass plays and closing space in time.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:13 am to TrueTigerTale
I admit it, I was. The defense looked slow. They WERE better than the UCLA game.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 7:51 am to moneyg
quote:It wasn’t good by any stretch, but yes, they were definitely less terrible than the defense and special teams.
It did?
I don’t think it did.
To the person saying the defense was worn down
On the first drive of the game they allowed a 3rd down conversion, a 20+ yard pass, and a 20+ yard run (on 1st & 20). On the second drive they allowed 4 3rd down conversions and a trick play touchdown.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 8:19 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
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Without Daniels 114 ish yard rushing LSU only had about 25 yards running.
He wasn't much different when He played Fla St in a Bowl game his freshman year.
It was special teams and defense that won that game.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 8:27 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
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With a solid run game and Dainels getting even 70 yards scrambling. Along with the running backs getting what average SEC teams rush for, points would come.25 yard is going to get it done.
The points did come. They scored 3 TDs in their last 3 possessions. Overall, they scored 3.3 points per possession excluding the end of the half. I went back and looked at the 2020 when most feel LSU had a good offense undone by an awful defense. That year LSU and their opponents averaged 13 possessions each excluding the end of the half. At 3.3 points per possession with 13 possessions, that would be 43 points. For the game as a whole, the offense was efficient at putting up points, the defense just didn’t give them enough chances to possess the ball. In 2020, LSU had only two games where they scored more than 3.3 points per possession and that was against terrible Vanderbilt and S. Carolina teams. When they put up 53 on Ole Miss (7 by the defense), they only averaged 3.1 points per possession but had 15 possessions.
Posted on 9/8/22 at 9:45 am to OLDBEACHCOMBER
I think it's fair to say this:
Daniels was productive, the rest of the offense was underwhelming. The O Line was bad, the RBs were non-factors, and our ELITE ALL AMERICAN WR had zero impact. Our backup WRs did well. Daniels was the only one to make a play that changed things.
Defense as a whole was underwhelming. Pass coverage was bad, and they couldn't stop the run between the 20's. They did stiffen in the Red Zone a couple times, but Fla State also made some bone-headed calls in a close game. We expected the D Line to shine, but that didn't happen against what was considered a weak Fla St O line.
Special Teams was awful. We didn't kick off out of bounds; that's the lone area where we didn't screw up multiple times. 2 blocked kicks, and we fumbled every punt return.
I said when we scored- I would have went for 2 and the W. I know the book says take OT, but Fla State had no answer for Daniels at that point, they'd already blocked one kick, and I had zero faith LSU would stop them on offense (unless they got within the 10, they couldn't line up and blow us into the Endzone). And we still had no options other than Daniels being productive. Backs were blah, and our star WR was invisible.
One play in the shotgun from the 2, ride the hot hand.
Daniels was productive, the rest of the offense was underwhelming. The O Line was bad, the RBs were non-factors, and our ELITE ALL AMERICAN WR had zero impact. Our backup WRs did well. Daniels was the only one to make a play that changed things.
Defense as a whole was underwhelming. Pass coverage was bad, and they couldn't stop the run between the 20's. They did stiffen in the Red Zone a couple times, but Fla State also made some bone-headed calls in a close game. We expected the D Line to shine, but that didn't happen against what was considered a weak Fla St O line.
Special Teams was awful. We didn't kick off out of bounds; that's the lone area where we didn't screw up multiple times. 2 blocked kicks, and we fumbled every punt return.
I said when we scored- I would have went for 2 and the W. I know the book says take OT, but Fla State had no answer for Daniels at that point, they'd already blocked one kick, and I had zero faith LSU would stop them on offense (unless they got within the 10, they couldn't line up and blow us into the Endzone). And we still had no options other than Daniels being productive. Backs were blah, and our star WR was invisible.
One play in the shotgun from the 2, ride the hot hand.
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