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re: Anyone have the scoop on LSU Men's Tennis?
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:15 am to Tigerpride18
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:15 am to Tigerpride18
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doubt there are more than 10 people on this board that could name an lsu tennis player ,or women's tennis player ,that has ever played for lsu
Steve Carter coached tennis at LSU and Chad Dudley played for LSU
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 10:16 am
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:19 am to Tigerpride18
makes sense since LSU fans are extremely casual and can only rail off football/basketball/baseball/gym
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:00 am to Adajax
they were ranked #67 last i saw.
Women are ranked #10 and seem pretty great
Women are ranked #10 and seem pretty great
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:56 am to Swampcat
The only American kids that can compete come from Saddlebrook, IMG, Newks, Everett, and Sanchez where they practice with foreign kids. Otherwise forget about it because someone that is ranked top 5 in LA and grew up at Metairie or Tchefuncta CC has an icebergs chance in hell of competing against Euros and Latin Americans where tennis is the #2 sport in their countries
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:21 pm to josh336
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Americans have the option to get better at tennis if they want to compete with international players. They just don’t prioritize it.
Totally disagree with you.
Parents spend millions of dollars on tennis lessons. High schools all have tennis teams. Parents hire private coaches. But for the vast majority, there's no place to further their game after high school because the foreigners get all the scholarships.
The international players have "high schools" that are like IMG. They go to high school to play tennis, soccer, basketball or whatever. Then they turn pro. If they're not an immediate success, their avenues to further development are the US colleges. (The NCAA considers them to still be amateurs as long as they haven't passed a certain earnings threshold.)
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:31 pm to PurpleExile
quote:Just not true
Parents spend millions of dollars on tennis lessons. High schools all have tennis teams. Parents hire private coaches. But for the vast majority, there's no place to further their game after high school because the foreigners get all the scholarships.
If you are very athletic and take tennis seriously as an American you absolutely will play D1
Plenty of us did
From my graduating year alone we had the following just in Louisiana
LSU
UCF
ULL
Wake
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:32 pm to Screaming Viking
quote:
Purple, you are just wrong on this. Fact is that there are only a limited number of truly elite American players. And those players have historically attended a small number of colleges. There are not enough American born players to fill the Top 25 ranked teams. They simply must being in foreigners to compete.
You're half-right, half-wrong.
If there was more incentive for US kids to continue playing tennis through college (with scholarships available), the talent level of US players would surely rise.
The notion that US college coaches have to bring in foreigners to fill out their rosters and "compete" is not a valid reason for them to turn their backs on US kids. If there was a movement across the NCAA to recruit more US kids, the playing field should still be level.
What the coaches are doing instead flies in the face of the current political climate. Taxpayers are funding too many scholarships for foreign athletes.
America first...and all that. Why should it be any different in college tennis, volleyball, golf, swimming, etc.?
I'd be all for it if some congressmen proposed a bill directing the NCAA to limit scholarships to foreign athletes in every sport -- for example, saying that at least 75 percent of all rosters/scholarships should go to American citizens.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:38 pm to PurpleExile
The kids that play locally and do well just aren’t as good as they think. Tennis isn’t local
For example. Every year I would only play really one or two tournaments in actual Louisiana
I would end up playing in the state tournament for high school just to help Catholic out. In the e Semi finals I would play some kid and win 6-0 6-0
Now parents would think “hey, my kid is top 4 in the state in 5a he should be getting SEC offers. Top 4 in football and basketball can go anywhere they want”
But tennis just isn’t that
For example. Every year I would only play really one or two tournaments in actual Louisiana
I would end up playing in the state tournament for high school just to help Catholic out. In the e Semi finals I would play some kid and win 6-0 6-0
Now parents would think “hey, my kid is top 4 in the state in 5a he should be getting SEC offers. Top 4 in football and basketball can go anywhere they want”
But tennis just isn’t that
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:38 pm to lsupride87
quote:
If you are very athletic and take tennis seriously as an American you absolutely will play D1
Plenty of us did
From my graduating year alone we had the following just in Louisiana
LSU
UCF
ULL
Wake
And how many of those actually competed for their schools?
Or did they mostly sit and watch as the foreigners played the 1, 2, 3 and 4 singles?
This came from the USTA itself:
"According to an NCAA Research report published in December 2022, 61% of male and 66% of female Division I tennis players are international students, up from approximately 38% and 50% reported in 2006-2007."
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:40 pm to PurpleExile
quote:Dude if you banned international players the quality of college tennis would be absolute shite
And how many of those actually competed for their schools? Or did they mostly sit and watch as the foreigners played the 1, 2, 3 and 4 singles?
You would have people at major power 5 schools starting that absolutely are bad at tennis
Me trying to imagine the kid ranked in the 300s in the country getting a D1 spot is laughable
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:36 pm to PurpleExile
quote:
And how many of those actually competed for their schools? Or did they mostly sit and watch as the foreigners played the 1, 2, 3 and 4 singles?
I know plenty of Americans that played at top ranked schools and played top 3 singles. You’re arguing about a sport that you don’t seem to truly understand.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:56 pm to lsupride87
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Dude if you banned international players the quality of college tennis would be absolute shite
You would have people at major power 5 schools starting that absolutely are bad at tennis
I'm not saying they should ban international players. They shouldn't ban international students, either. I'm saying they should limit the number allowed on each team's roster -- 25% seems fair.
As for the drop in overall quality, who cares? As long as teams are all competing and recruiting by the same rules, who cares that the overall quality will drop at first, because eventually it will improve.
OK, I get it. You were a tennis dude in college. You want to see the best.
But I'd rather see the best Americans getting the scholarships, not the IMG types from Europe and South America.
Tennis coaches overdid it.
If you want to reply, feel free, but I've stated my viewpoint and I don't want to turn this into another one of those crazy Rant back and forths.
I'm not going to change your mind, my fellow Tiger, and I doubt you'll be able to change mine.
#GeauxTigers
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:09 pm to PurpleExile
I've learned a lot in this thread. It seems more complex than I imagined but it just chaps my arse to see A&M, Bama, and any Mississippi school or any SEC school for that matter in the Top 25 and LSU isn't even in the Top 75. It is what it is though.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:12 pm to Adajax
quote:Then give money
imagined but it just chaps my arse to see A&M, Bama, and any Mississippi school or any SEC school for that matter in the Top 25 and LSU isn't even in the Top 75.
This is what’s frustrating
A big money guy can give 500k to football and it won’t make a material difference
If you give 500k to tennis for NIL you are guaranteeing lsu to be a top 5 team
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:48 pm to Adajax
They should have never ran off Brown.
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