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re: Anyone else warming up to the idea of keeping the two divisions in the SEC?

Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:09 pm to
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:09 pm to
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Just wait until LSU knocks off a top 5 ranked OU or Texas at their place. Trust me. It’ll all feel natural.



It’ll be fun but it won’t be the same.

Beating a top 5 team is going to be fun whether it’s Florida or Iowa State. You’re trying to tell me a Saturday night matchup against top 5 Oklahoma will feel the same to you as a Saturday night against top 5 Auburn or Florida or Tennessee or Alabama or Georgia?

We are not the same then.

I don’t want to throw 90 years of history away. If we’re going to lose those games it’s not worth it to me.

The only way to add Texas and Oklahoma and add that money while at the same time keeping the historic matchups that made the SEC is to go to pods.
Posted by turnpiketiger
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:12 pm to
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I don’t want to throw 90 years of history away. If we’re going to lose those games it’s not worth it to me


We don’t have 90 years of history with Auburn and Florida. Alabama? Closer to 90 years though.

In fact, Texas has played Arkansas & A&M more times than we’ve played everyone in our division except the MS schools & Alabama. The same is true for OU and Missouri. They have played 96 times. That’s a lot of history. My point here is that the SEC isn’t forcing rivalries here. There are some natural rivalries with a long history that are being rekindled while some new ones that won’t feel forced will be born. It’s all positive momentum.
This post was edited on 7/28/21 at 8:23 pm
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:17 pm to
126 years Alabama
120 years Auburn
84 years Florida


That’s how long it’s been since we’ve been playing those schools regularly.

We should never go a single year without playing at least one of them.
Posted by turnpiketiger
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:23 pm to
Where are you getting this info? I don’t see the same figures.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 8:30 pm to
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Where are you getting this info? I don’t see the same figures.




I’m going off of the time since the first meeting. Probably not the best metric but just trying to show just how long these matchups have been occurring.

We’ve played Alabama, Auburn and Florida at least 55 times. In comparison we’ve played Texas 16 times. I don’t understand people willing to throw away history and tradition. It’s what makes college football great.
Posted by Ziggy52
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/28/21 at 9:59 pm to
2 Divisions but Pod scheduling
Posted by abellsujr
New England
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:46 am to
I can think of both pros and cons to both set ups. Some cool ideas in here. Some retarded ones. It doesn’t matter because Mickey Mouse owns us now and wants pods. So I hope y’all like pods. And an SEC playoff will probably happen at some point as well. So everyone make sure to buy your Disney+ subscription to thank the mouse for all his hard work changing the landscape of college football. Y’all have fun.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:04 am to
I would be in favor of rotating 4 team pods that change yearly otherwise who ever winds up with Bama in their pod is f'ed in the A. PLus whoever gets 2 of any of the following: Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Miss ST, Ole Miss and/or Tennessee in their pod lucks out and gets a fast track straight to the SEC playoffs. Just will be difficult to do PODs in a fair manner.
Posted by BayouENGR
Seagrove Beach
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:24 am to
I'd like to keep playing Auburn at home, where the odds may be ever in our favor
Posted by LSU NO Tigah
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 7/31/21 at 5:48 pm to
No. We wouldn’t be playing much of the SEC as we knew it if that happens. The best scenario to me would be to have the entire conference rotate so that you play every team an equal number of times over so many years. Even as it stands now, we play teams in the East, except Florida, pretty rarely.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 7/31/21 at 5:56 pm to
4 Divisions (pods)

A--LSU, Ags, State, OMiss

B--Texas, OU, Arkie, MIzzou

C--Bama, AU, Tennessee, Vandy

D--UGA, Florida, Carolina, UK
Posted by GeorgeWest
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Posted on 7/31/21 at 6:01 pm to
Our potential schedules (with 9 SEC games)

Years 1 and 2--State, OMiss, Aggies, Texas, Arkansas, Auburn, Tennessee, UGA, UK

Years 3 and 4--State, OMiss, Aggies, Oklahoma, Mizzou, Bama, Vandy, Carolina, Florida

Play every non-division team twice every 4 years. IMO, this is the best schedule to use. We do not have to play Bama, AU, and UF every year. And UGA can continue their rivalry with Auburn twice every 4 years.
Posted by LSU NO Tigah
New Orleans
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Posted on 7/31/21 at 6:25 pm to
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Our potential schedules (with 9 SEC games)

Years 1 and 2--State, OMiss, Aggies, Texas, Arkansas, Auburn, Tennessee, UGA, UK

Years 3 and 4--State, OMiss, Aggies, Oklahoma, Mizzou, Bama, Vandy, Carolina, Florida

Play every non-division team twice every 4 years. IMO, this is the best schedule to use. We do not have to play Bama, AU, and UF every year. And UGA can continue their rivalry with Auburn twice every 4 years.


Keeping the “traditional” rivalries has long played a part in how the schedule is made. Going to be interesting for sure to see if schools are willing to give those up for more money if we go to pods, given that history. If Alabama and Auburn move to the East all of those rivalries are preserved but that would leave the west with very few of the original SEC members which I’d really dislike. I have to think they’ve been working on that this entire time they’ve been considering expansion. And if the votes are lined up like some say they are, then they must’ve already worked something out to the satisfaction of 11 AD’s/ school presidents.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
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Posted on 7/31/21 at 6:30 pm to
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Keeping the “traditional” rivalries has long played a part in how the schedule is made. Going to be interesting for sure to see if schools are willing to give those up for more money if we go to pods, given that history. If Alabama and Auburn move to the East all of those rivalries are preserved but that would leave the west with very few of the original SEC members which I’d really dislike. I have to think they’ve been working on that this entire time they’ve been considering expansion. And if the votes are lined up like some say they are, then they must’ve already worked something out to the satisfaction of 11 AD’s/ school presidents.

People are not really giving up much and they are gaining a lot. This is not see you in seven years; it's every other year. We will play Florida every other year with Georgia inbetween.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34769 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 7:44 pm to
Divisions >>> pods

And it really isn’t even close. Id rather just not add two new teams if we have to go to pods to do it
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 7:48 pm
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:03 pm to
Keeping the two east and west divisions is by far the best solution where LSU is concerned. Moreover, it not only makes the most sense geographically, but it also preserves most of the current rivalries.

However, the biggest reason why it is the best solution, at least for LSU, is because as soon as Alabama is moved to the SEC East and makes UGA and Florida its bitches, LSU will assume the top dog position in the SEC West.

Meanwhile, all of the elite of the elite recruits want to play for the top dog. Thus, LSU will end up with the greater bulk of those elite of the elite recruits because no other head coach in the SEC West is better at recruiting than Ed O.

Furthermore, Alabama and LSU will still meet on the football field every year, but it will be on a neutral field in the SEC title game.

Then once the new 12-team College Football Playoffs begin in the not too distant future, both LSU and Alabama will play in it every season.

So it's a question of what do you as an individual prefer? Do you want to play in a pod system where everybody plays everybody else and have a playoff governed by multiple funky time breakers? Or do you want to play for the SEC Championship every year and also get to play in the College Football Playoffs every year? To me, it's an easy decision. Give me the latter everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:09 pm to
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Pods. Play everybody w/i every two years, home, & home w/i four years.


Apparently, playing everybody every two years is more important to you, than LSU winning the SEC West every year, playing in the SEC Championship title game every season, and then playing in the new expanded college football playoffs every year.

Whatever floats your boat I guess. Some of you people really amaze me.
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:15 pm to
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2 divisions is the worst choice that could be made.


So you would rather preserve rivalries, even though maintaining the two division setup preserves the rivalries best and makes the most sense geographically. Rather than LSU winning the SEC West every year, playing in the SEC Championship title game every season, and then playing in the new expanded college football playoffs every year.

Wow, some of you people are far more than just a few cards short of making up a full deck.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 10:30 pm to
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So you would rather preserve rivalries, even though maintaining the two division setup preserves the rivalries best and makes the most sense geographically. Rather than LSU winning the SEC West every year, playing in the SEC Championship title game every season, and then playing in the new expanded college football playoffs every year.


My preference is to create a single conference environment rather than the Big 12 SEC Challenge for football. Preserving some rivalries in the process is just icing on the cake.

2 divisions is the worst choice that could be made.
This post was edited on 7/31/21 at 10:31 pm
Posted by Purple Tiger King
Member since Jan 2021
2016 posts
Posted on 7/31/21 at 11:36 pm to
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My preference is to create a single conference environment rather than the Big 12 SEC Challenge for football. Preserving some rivalries in the process is just icing on the cake.

2 divisions is the worst choice that could be made.


Preserving rivalries is exactly what the two divisions setup provides. Plus it makes the most sense geographically.

Moreover, because Alabama is to move to the SEC East, it moves LSU into becoming the new top-dog in the SEC West. Sort of like UGA used to be top dog in the SEC East, but now with Alabama moving to the SEC East, Alabama will now assume that top dog spot.

Hence, instead of Alabama and UGA playing in the SEC title games most seasons, it will be LSU playing Alabama in the SEC Championship virtually every year.

However, that doesn't appeal to you because you hate LSU. I get it. Either that or you are just too unintelligent to figure it out.
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 12:26 am
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