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re: Anyone else feel we should have not fired Wade(ride it out)

Posted on 3/16/22 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5570 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 3:01 pm to
So your theory is the NCAA gives a show cause and let’s him coach?
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 3:03 pm
Posted by TigerWatch
Metairie
Member since Feb 2004
3319 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 3:10 pm to
Nope. Probably should’ve done it 3 years ago!
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3905 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

Then get rid of him at that point. Firing him right before the tournament is a terrible move


It’s really not even a question. Wade WILL get a show cause penalty. LSU was going to have to let him go one way or the other. The question is whether they should have risked potentially greater penalties for the sake of this year’s tournament. If they saved even one year of probation by firing him now, I think it was the right call.
Posted by kkv75
Member since Sep 2017
4890 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 3:51 pm to
Let it go! Let it GOOOO! Can't hold it back anymore!!
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3905 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

You do know that you can hire and/or keep a coach with a show cause, correct?


You don’t think Wade has been effectively working under a show cause arrangement for the past three years already? And what did he do? He got caught offering illegal inducements to a recruit. What reason does Woodward have to go to bat for him and trust him under a show cause going forward?
Posted by outerstater
Member since Jan 2022
860 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:05 pm to
It comes down to how you feel about honesty. If that is not important, then anything goes. As they always say, the problem was that he got caught. If not, it can go on forever. If you don't care then I say there is something wrong with your honesty. You can hem and haw, but that doesn't solve what happened. Honesty is always the best thing in all situations.
Posted by Germantiger001
Southeast LA
Member since Jun 2016
1014 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:21 pm to
I feel like I am only a fan and I’m not privy to all the details that are not made public. This is not Woodward‘s first rodeo. He has had a good track record so far with hires. With all of the positive things that Wade brought to the table, it’s well documented that he’s a crappy cheater. It’s someone else’s turn and hopefully they will be better at cheating
Posted by outerstater
Member since Jan 2022
860 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 5:45 pm to
I have an open mind, but if I tell a lie can I really make that disappear. It's history, but it appears that today you somehow can make it go away. What are people thinking today. It's obvious what a lot of people are thinking. So sad.
Posted by Dalosaqy
I can't quite re
Member since Dec 2007
12787 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 6:13 pm to
No. Time to move on.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32210 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

So your theory is the NCAA gives a show cause and let’s him coach?


The NCAA has no control over who LSU employs, in any capacity- from coach to janitor.

What a silly idea.

Coaches with show causes do operate under restrictions, such as no off campus recruiting and scholarship reductions. And potential postseason bans.

Posted by LCTFAN
New Iberia
Member since Mar 2013
2834 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 6:37 pm to
quote:


lsutiger2

Anyone else feel we should have not fired Wade(ride it out)


No way should he remained coach of LSU basketball.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
84969 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

What if O had leverage on the university? What if the buyout and way it was handled is really hush money?


You think it wasn’t?

I thought that was a pretty open secret. The Title IX stuff alone meant O shouldn’t have gotten a dime.
Posted by shaquilleoatmeall
Your mom
Member since Mar 2022
52 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 8:31 pm to
This is partly why the FBI is so intrigued.
Posted by covtgr
Covington
Member since Aug 2004
1158 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 8:34 pm to
Hell yes. This NOA is trash.
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
7109 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

Honesty is always the best thing in all situations.


I agree. And honestly what Wade did is no worse than what everybody else was doing. You say he got caught but you know what................so did everyone else. The only thing that is different about this whole thing is on an HBO documentary Wades voice is on there. Which ironically ended up being different(strong arse offer) than what they(the NCAA/media) thought.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
47766 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 8:07 am to
If anyone read the entire NOA and still thinks he was wrongly fired its not even worth discussing it with them, they will never be convinced.
Posted by lionscoach
Clemson SC
Member since Aug 2013
85 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 8:40 am to
quote:

And honestly what Wade did is no worse than what everybody else was doing.


Should it matter that everyone else was doing it? I am not a goody goody but this stuff reads pretty bad. When things start to get covered up you know they knew it was wrong.
Posted by Britgirl
Ascension
Member since Jan 2013
1179 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 9:04 am to
quote:

If anyone read the entire NOA and still thinks he was wrongly fired its not even worth discussing it with them, they will never be convinced.


Anyone reading the NOA might assume that the allegations were true and had evidence to back them up. Anyone might assume that the the NCAA would only include allegations if they were true and supported by evidence. Anyone would assume that the wording of the allegations were not misleading. They might also assume that the NCAA was working in good faith.

Jordy Culotta had an interesting podcast on Monday morning addressing this.
It’s worth a listen.

An example of misleading, according to Jordy, is the extortion text exchange with the ex-fiancée. This occurred whilst WW was at VCU not LSU and has no bearing on WW’s employment at LSU. Furthermore, WW voluntarily handed in his phone at that time because he was being extorted. That issue was dealt with at the time. It shouldn’t have been lumped in with the other allegations. It had already been dealt with by the NCAA. It’s not relevant to this situation.

I invite you and other readers to take a listen. The WW portion begins at around the 9 minute mark:

LINK Culotta podcast

Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
21057 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 11:30 am to
Like listening to a Jordy C podcast is accurate...

In reality though if Wade failed to cooperate per some of the allegations toward the end then he probably broke his agreement with LSU when he met with LSU admins a couple yrs ago.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
283502 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 11:42 am to
quote:

If anyone read the entire NOA and still thinks he was wrongly fired its not even worth discussing it with them, they will never be convinced.


Yeah. Wade is a good coach (I think) who was in over his head and desperate to cover up his mistakes. I think he's known for a couple of years this day was coming.

I do appreciate the hell out of his effort the last two years with this over his head though.
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