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re: Anyone complaining about pitch count

Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:20 am to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84194 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:20 am to
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There’s no known correlation between pitch count and Tommy John surgery
There absolutely is for young(little league) pitchers. For college age? No idea.
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2022
2413 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:20 am to
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Most trust CJJ, just worried about how it will affect the long season/post season. It's a legit thing to be concerned about considering the rise of TJ surgery


It was 1 game. No reason for concern unless you see him get stretched out that much every week which will likely not happen. His velo was only down 2-3 mph in that last inning and his breaking stuff was still pretty sharp. No need for concern.
Posted by Rubberbandman21
Member since Aug 2021
106 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:24 am to
I only got to catch the last few innings after he passed the 100 pitch mark. Every pitch he made after that was stress free, no trouble, and in complete command. I think that means more than the actual number of pitches.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
58936 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:31 am to
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Ben McDonald threw 18 CG in 2 years at LSU. I'm sure he pitched over 135 pitches several times during those games and ended up being just fine.
His overuse culminated in giving up 12 runs in three innings in an elimination game.
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4870 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:36 am to
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A sweep in.fricking April means nothing if you lose your ace or he's not as effective for a month


So we should play now using this pussy philosophy until later in the season? Grow a set of fkn balls. What if anybody gets hurt?? The kid was fkn dealing and got better as the game went on. He wanted the fkn ball. Tard takes/complaints
Posted by Rubberbandman21
Member since Aug 2021
106 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:36 am to
How young are you talking about? Do you mean kids that only throw off a mound when they pitch and never throw to condition their arm? Then yes, pitch count probably matters because their arms aren’t in shape.
Posted by purple18
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2009
1324 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:42 am to
I don't have any issue with Anderson's pitch count last night as long as his next few starts stay well below. If anyone thinks he will be this effective in June if every outing moving forward is over 125-135 pitches is delusional.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
27950 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:45 am to
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only got to catch the last few innings after he passed the 100 pitch mark. Every pitch he made after that was stress free, no trouble, and in complete command. I think that means more than the actual number of pitches

You can’t tell these idiots anything. They think there is a magic number. You lose velo and command as your arm stresses. He lost a couple mph but command was still there which means he wasn’t stressing or overusing his arm. He gets an extra day off this week and his pen day will be pushed back I’m sure.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84194 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:49 am to
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How young are you talking about?
In the post. Little league.
Posted by 18handicap
Member since Jul 2014
5843 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:21 am to
Lots of examples being posted of the Pussifcation of baseball by the Hall of Fame Rant coaches today!
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
30874 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:22 am to
I don't have any concern because I was being entertained. Kade was enjoying it, it made for a great viewing experience for anyone watching. All of these are the reasons the game was created. It was another great experience we all got to have during the regular season.

It's not going to hurt him down the road most likely so who cares
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 10:24 am
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
105397 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:28 am to
Idiot
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
5798 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 10:44 am to
Well he threw 135 pitched and I thought the limit in college was 115. Did this change?
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
5798 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:07 am to
Ben McDonald was abused. .
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84194 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:11 am to
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Did this change?
As of 2023 it's 150.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
14468 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:15 am to
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There’s no known correlation between pitch count and Tommy John surgery. And nothing that says 100 pitches is some magic number.

bullshite. A 2011 study found that youth pitchers throwing more than 100 pitches per week were at significantly higher risk for elbow and shoulder injuries that required TJ surgery.

I think what you mean is other factors like pitching mechanics, arm fatigue, year-round play without adequate rest, and even the type of pitches thrown can also influence the need for TJ surgery.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
19814 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:17 am to
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sweep in.fricking April means nothing if you lose your ace or he's not as effective for a month

Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25850 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 11:19 am to
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A 2011 study found that youth pitchers throwing more than 100 pitches per week were at significantly higher risk for elbow and shoulder injuries that required TJ surgery.


Doesn't that criteria capture just about every college starter between their starts and bullpen days?
Posted by Rubberbandman21
Member since Aug 2021
106 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 1:26 pm to
Little League can mean 9 or 14
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
84194 posts
Posted on 4/4/25 at 1:28 pm to
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Little League can mean 9 or 14
Then 9-14
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