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Analyzing The Dip in Batting Average in SEC Play
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:11 am
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:11 am
-Slightly alarming, as only two regulars are hitting over .300 now.
-Gavin Dugas is 5-33 since being injured at Kentucky. He's struckout 14x. However, in SEC games since then, he has 5BB & 7HBP. In one of the crazier stats ive ever seen, he has been hit by a pitch in 9 straight games.
While he is maintaining his value as an on-base threat, he has not done much to keep runners moving.
-Cade Beloso is on a 2-20 skid in his last two SEC series. He is putting the ball in play. 2BB, 2K, 2 1B. He has been somewhat unlucky, but you also wonder if the clock has struck midnight on Cade. It may be time to explore using Travinski at DH some nights.
-Speaking of Hayden Travinski, he has homered in the last 3 SEC series. In his last 7 games alone, he has 11 RBI. Baseball is a game of streaks, and as he heats up, it may be time to find a way to get him everyday ABs, unless until he cools.
-Brayden Jobert, after a nice series vs Kentucky, has been on a 4-23 bender (.173) While he hasn't played everyday, he has been in there pretty consistently. We already withstood a mini slump by him earlier in the season, I wonder how long of a rope they give him with Paxton Kling back.
-Paxton Kling's return is a positive for the team, despite his numbers. He offers a different skillset than any other player on the team, both in the field and on the bases. I think they need to force him some at bats (id play him everyday) going down the stretch here.
-Jordan Thompson, while playing an excellent shortstop, has gone 10-43 (.232) in SEC play since the Kentucky series. He won't leave the lineup, but this is just to further support that the ancillary players have not hit well lately.
-Overall I do not think LSU has a getting on base problem, but they do lack 'hitterish' type players that consistently lean on the defense. And while this is by design(play for the 3R HR), it is also prone to some slumps.
- Finally, crunching some numbers, if you remove Crews and Tommy White from the statistics in SEC play, LSU, as a team, hits .243.
League average in the SEC is .265
The worst team in the league, Missouri, hits .236 as a team.
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Overall, the median numbers for the SEC are .265/.374/.462
LSU without Crews/White: .243/.385/.432
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- Am I freaking out? No. But think of the talking point surrounding how poorly pitching has been this season league-wide. And they are only hitting .243?
There was always a worry that maybe guys like Beloso and Jobert were playing slightly over their head. Milazzo has been lagniappe as a hitter, and while he is not a liability anymore, he has just kind of turned into a net-neutral. Dugas is immensely valuable to this team, but you are only getting a part of his game right now.
As consistent as LSU has been up to this point, they are a hard team to predict because of this. Is it a slump, or has the prince turned into a frog? If it is the latter, guys like Travinski and Kling need to step up. Tre Morgan needs to take more of a burden as a run producer.
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Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:13 am to Lester Earl
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Milazzo has been lagniappe as a hitter, and while he is not a liability anymore, he has just kind of turned into a net-neutral.
He's starting to come around baws! Maybe all hope for Lester isn't gone, yet.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:14 am to Lester Earl
So we are hitting worse in conference play than non conference?
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:15 am to Lester Earl
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And they are only hitting .243?
Is this the same thing as "If Skenes wasn't playing for LSU"
I need the trant to tell me how to think
Also, good write up overall. Lots of thought provoking topics to discuss
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:18 am to Lester Earl
Those numbers just highlight my concern. I didn't know the numbers but it did seem you're seeing struggles with the bat. That pretty much highlights it right there. Need to see league averages in SEC play though.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 9:19 am
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:19 am to Lester Earl
Jones Striking out 42% of the time is alarming.
The scouting report has to be easy on him, just throw a slider 3 times in a row. Doesn’t matter where it is, he has trouble with it.
The scouting report has to be easy on him, just throw a slider 3 times in a row. Doesn’t matter where it is, he has trouble with it.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:19 am to Lester Earl
We need to try a different sequence at the top of the order. I propose Morgan to leadoff. Then you can go with Dugas, Crews, White or Crews, White, etc.
Definitely time to lean more on Travinski. I believe he needs a DH game and a game behind the plate.
Thompson really is going to be the pivot point down the stretch. We need him to spark the bottom half of the order. I kind of want him in the 9 hole.
And, 1 other guy has to get some key hits in the bottom half of the order. I think our top will be fine, with or without any changes to the sequence. It's the other guys that really need to take some pressure off of the top.
Definitely time to lean more on Travinski. I believe he needs a DH game and a game behind the plate.
Thompson really is going to be the pivot point down the stretch. We need him to spark the bottom half of the order. I kind of want him in the 9 hole.
And, 1 other guy has to get some key hits in the bottom half of the order. I think our top will be fine, with or without any changes to the sequence. It's the other guys that really need to take some pressure off of the top.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:19 am to deuce985
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Need to see league averages in SEC play though.
These are the league averages.
.265/.374/.462
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:20 am to Lester Earl
I mean remove the best two players from every lineup and let me know what their SEC average is.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:21 am to Lester Earl
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Overall, the median numbers for the SEC are .265/.374/.462
LSU without Crews/White: .243/.385/.432
I mean I get that you are looking for number to provide analysis, but this is a pretty big reach no? If you take away every SEC teams 2 best hitters, I bet your “SEC median” numbers plummet.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:21 am to Lester Earl
Actually the Jones SO’s are 33% of the time. I didn’t factor in the walks as ABs.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:22 am to LSUcajun77
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Jones Striking out 42% of the time is alarming.
K% is divided by plate appearances, not ABs. So while it is still high (35%), it's not quite that high.
and Im Ok with Jones. His BB% is above average, and when he makes contact, he does damage. He has been one of the most consistent guys in the lineup in regards to that.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:22 am to Lester Earl
I meant more the breakdown per team but yeah, I saw that. Doesn't look good for LSU and not a big coincidence when Crews struggled we lost. I mean obviously the best player is going to do that but the others are clearly not picking the slack up except White. not a good time to go cold approaching near the end of the season.
Hope this series was a wake up call to them.
Hope this series was a wake up call to them.
This post was edited on 5/8/23 at 9:23 am
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:22 am to Lester Earl
Nothing to be argued with here.
I think it’s a combination of slumps and guys that are coming back to their level.
I think you have to keep Dugas at the top and he showed life this weekend so shoulder seems to be healing.
Morgan also showed flashes not sure how to get him to drive more in thought because he is good in the 2 spot.
Crews/Tanks no need to do anything.
JT I’d drop back to 8/9
Cade agreed maybe it’s time to go back to the bench. If we do that it does allow us to move a Morgan to first, Jones DH and we then can try some other guys in OF.
I feel like 1-4 are solid, Jones is good still hitting high and his power is unreal. So 5 good hitters threats, we need JT back and Milazzo to keep being what he has become.
Hopefully Kling,Pearson, Jobert, Fry, Stevenson can get hot at least two at a time.
I think we should go all in on Kling and can now rotate the other 3 in LF.
Cade can sit a few games and come in as a homer threat late.
Only issue is Hayden but I think Morgan to 1st, Kling to Right, Pearson/Fry/Stevenson handle left at least gives us more defense.
I think it’s a combination of slumps and guys that are coming back to their level.
I think you have to keep Dugas at the top and he showed life this weekend so shoulder seems to be healing.
Morgan also showed flashes not sure how to get him to drive more in thought because he is good in the 2 spot.
Crews/Tanks no need to do anything.
JT I’d drop back to 8/9
Cade agreed maybe it’s time to go back to the bench. If we do that it does allow us to move a Morgan to first, Jones DH and we then can try some other guys in OF.
I feel like 1-4 are solid, Jones is good still hitting high and his power is unreal. So 5 good hitters threats, we need JT back and Milazzo to keep being what he has become.
Hopefully Kling,Pearson, Jobert, Fry, Stevenson can get hot at least two at a time.
I think we should go all in on Kling and can now rotate the other 3 in LF.
Cade can sit a few games and come in as a homer threat late.
Only issue is Hayden but I think Morgan to 1st, Kling to Right, Pearson/Fry/Stevenson handle left at least gives us more defense.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:23 am to LSUcajun77
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Jones Striking out 42% of the time is alarming.
Seems like he had a few walks this weekend. I was pleased with that.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:24 am to Lester Earl
Yea look up, I thought about it again.
The kid is a monster, with a ton of power, and can stroke, but some of his plate appearance just look bad. I know he’s young, and adjusting, so overall he’s having a great year for a freshman.
The kid is a monster, with a ton of power, and can stroke, but some of his plate appearance just look bad. I know he’s young, and adjusting, so overall he’s having a great year for a freshman.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:24 am to Rtowntiger
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I mean remove the best two players from every lineup and let me know what their SEC average is.
3 Months ago LSU had a 2nd' team that could win small conferences.
Now most of the starters are hitting below league average?
Let me know what you want the standards to be.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:25 am to deuce985
Actually now isn’t the worst time. We still have two series and sec tourny to work it out. Also means we should be back to hot again for post season play.
Id be more concerned if we continue to see downward trend state, UGA and sec tourny.
Even slowing down we should take our regional and since we have the super at home we should win.
If Jay fails to get us to a super then we have to view it as a bad year and the pressure on him should start to heat up some.
Id be more concerned if we continue to see downward trend state, UGA and sec tourny.
Even slowing down we should take our regional and since we have the super at home we should win.
If Jay fails to get us to a super then we have to view it as a bad year and the pressure on him should start to heat up some.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:26 am to LSUcajun77
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Jones Striking out 42% of the time is alarming.
If you watch Jones at bats it’s easy to dissect. He doesn’t stay in the pitch and hit for contact. Every swing is him trying to launch a hr to left. If I was an opposing pitcher I would throw low and away every time to Jones.
Posted on 5/8/23 at 9:30 am to DRock88
May be a dumb question but can a DH become a fielder if he we sub players?
If Milazzo started at C and Travinski at DH, could Travinski then catch if we PH for Milazzo?
If Milazzo started at C and Travinski at DH, could Travinski then catch if we PH for Milazzo?
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