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re: An objective look at Ensminger’s offense
Posted on 1/3/19 at 6:59 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Posted on 1/3/19 at 6:59 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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How would the only answer not be coaching?
YUP... Which you LOVE to do....
You are a shite fan...... Go away..........
Posted on 1/3/19 at 7:00 pm to The Levee
Welcome to the club. I have been screaming this for a long time.
When we played Fla and Bama it was worse than yesterday.
When we played Fla and Bama it was worse than yesterday.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 7:05 pm to Havoc
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 7:09 pm to The Levee
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UCF was far from a “vaunted” front 7 and we missed assignments up front in the run game almost on every play. Deculus misses bad on run plays and there are more than a few where he doesn’t touch a soul. We attach, and then they shed our blocks with ease
this is very disconcerting. I am beginning to question our OL coach.
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There are VERY few plays where we protect with 5 and a RB and someone doesn’t completely whiff on a block. Not outnumbered, but completely whiffed on even numbers
this is also very troublesome. tho I think our OL did improve on pass protect most of this game.
what doesn't seem right about our OL this year is that once we settled down and didn't have to play musical chairs we really didn't improve much. UCF was not a SEC quality DL.
one has to ask "why"? all of these guys are ranked high enough to have better results than they are giving. while they should improve next year missing assignments in the run game consistently just doesn't hack it.
I damn sure hope that youth and experience are our only problems and it's not coaching or talent
Posted on 1/3/19 at 7:12 pm to The Levee
Exactly. Our Oline is by far the limiting factor to the entire team. LT and RT are not SEC caliber...That limits the entire team and coaching and play calling and QB performances.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 7:14 pm to The Levee
It works when the wide recievers don't drop passes that hit them in the hands. Whodathunkit!?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 7:15 pm to dukke v
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YUP... Which you LOVE to do....
You are a shite fan...... Go away
Wait I'm a shite fan? What is this post, from you, about then?
PJ's take on the LSU offense, and UCF game
I'm simply trying to have a discussion and get answers from someone who may know more than me. Don't step in here and retard this thread up please.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 1/3/19 at 7:31 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
OL was bad
Green QB to start year (will only get better)
Below average RB stable (LSU standards)
Very little usage of the TE position
Next year gonna ball out!
We'll have TE's
Same or better OL
Better RB stable
Seasoned QB
Green QB to start year (will only get better)
Below average RB stable (LSU standards)
Very little usage of the TE position
Next year gonna ball out!
We'll have TE's
Same or better OL
Better RB stable
Seasoned QB
Posted on 1/3/19 at 7:46 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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If you know this, and we have had these troubles with the line being as terrible as you say all season, why weren't more of these things added?
Because it’s not true. If there was a work around for bad offensive line play no one would waste time recruiting offensive linemen. Just put five fat guys out there and run RPO and quick hitting pass plays. After all, defensive coaches are really stupid, and even if they know you don’t have time they’ll still give you a 10 yard cushion, except when they suicide crash your RPO fakes.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 7:51 pm to Spotswoode
You really expect us to believe we couldn't run a scheme to make the OL look ok against Southeastern? We were just that untalented?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 7:52 pm to The Levee
If we're being objecticve, can we agree that E's offense has a poor track record against competent defenses? No need to rehash all the reasons--it just hasn't been very good. I can't believe that because we were able to move the ball against UCF(we still stalled in the red zone repeatedly) that people think all is well on that side of the ball.
Even against UCF, we had many chances to put the game away, and the offense came up short every time. Same thing against the Aggies, both in regulation and OT. By any measure, we have a below average offense. That should be unacceptable for a program like ours.
Even against UCF, we had many chances to put the game away, and the offense came up short every time. Same thing against the Aggies, both in regulation and OT. By any measure, we have a below average offense. That should be unacceptable for a program like ours.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 7:53 pm to Spotswoode
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Because it’s not true. If there was a work around for bad offensive line play no one would waste time recruiting offensive linemen. Just put five fat guys out there and run RPO and quick hitting pass plays
So you are telling me that teams who are totally outmatched on the lines against an opponent can't, and don't, do anything to help the OL/offense out?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 7:56 pm to TigerBert
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Exactly. Our Oline is by far the limiting factor to the entire team
It's time for a new S&C coach. Past time. Our guys get physically dominated by smaller guys
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:00 pm to The Levee
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The quick fix is to add more quick game passing,
I have been of this opinion for some time. I noticed that Freeze beat Bama twice because he ran their big asses all over the field running sideline to sideline. The result was he neutralized Bama's rush and run defense making them chase the ball. That eventually led to big strikes in the vertical passing game.
LSU has some mentality that they cant break on running between the tackles and play action passes as the foundation of the offense. I have been wishing they would add some/more straight up short passes to the RB's and TE's to force different defensive lineups against them.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 8:15 pm to The Levee
I agree, the tackles seem more fit to play guard. Neither tackle has prototypical traits of a good tackle much less a great one. I also agree about the RPO'S and need to run more bubble/slip screens. I'd like to see the slants/drags but the times I saw them try to cut players they did a bad job of it.
I'm critical of SE when he calls plays on his own 5 (play action from under center against Bama) and gets Burrow rocked. They should be in shotgun 99% of the time against Bama, so Burrow can see the pressure coming at him better. I thought the playcall on the pick six in the bowl game was bad also, especially the route choice there(very susceptible to the pick six). Another RZ INT by Burrow was another bad route choice/playcall with Dee Anderson (6'6") running out route in end zone from the 5-6 yard line, should have ran fade or slant to use his size advantage.
I'm critical of SE when he calls plays on his own 5 (play action from under center against Bama) and gets Burrow rocked. They should be in shotgun 99% of the time against Bama, so Burrow can see the pressure coming at him better. I thought the playcall on the pick six in the bowl game was bad also, especially the route choice there(very susceptible to the pick six). Another RZ INT by Burrow was another bad route choice/playcall with Dee Anderson (6'6") running out route in end zone from the 5-6 yard line, should have ran fade or slant to use his size advantage.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 1/4/19 at 10:31 am to des4271
I agree with everything you said. It’s quite the handcuff, but it’s ultimatly one Ensminger to figure out a way to score in the red zone and to protect the football in his own red zone.
Also, grow some balls and get the first downs needed to seal the game and put it away. We never did that this season.
All of these facets of the game need to be seriously addressed in the offseason. That’s all.
Also, grow some balls and get the first downs needed to seal the game and put it away. We never did that this season.
All of these facets of the game need to be seriously addressed in the offseason. That’s all.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:06 am to The Levee
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The Levee
Why do you want to bash players?
I've been critical of the offensive line. I've said that it's shortcomings severely limit what Steve can do offensively. People complain about scheme but how do you know what scheme E wants to run if he can't run it due to personnel playing out of place or lack of depth.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:46 am to Malaysian Tiger
quote:We should have scored 48 in the first 3 quarts and had backups in the entire 4th. That was a very ugly 40 points for playing a jv defense. We should have been able to shred that dline every play. We settled for fg after fg. That shouldn't be good enough, especially playing a jv squad.
555 yards and 40 Points! Like someone winning LeMans in a Ferrari and saying I could have done better with a better car! Please find another topic!
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:47 am to GetmorewithLes
The quick fix us more talent at RB
We ended the year with almost 2900 passing yards
We ended the year with almost 2900 passing yards
Posted on 1/4/19 at 11:48 am to tschla1
quote:Bama didn't care about the Citadel. Nobody is going to be as focused or try as hard against a puny opponent. It's just not human nature. Saban can shout it all he wants, but it's just not going to be the same effort. If Bama gave their absolute best, Citadel wouldn't have gotten 10 yards all game. We are and will always be Saban's biggest game. He wants to beat us more than even Clemson.
So, if The Citadel can score 17 in 4 quarters, why couldn't we score 1 in 8 quarters?
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