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re: Am I the Only Etling FAN on this site?
Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:17 am to 1badboy
Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:17 am to 1badboy
Obviously, the 2017 LSU Tiger Football team has the talent to win the college football game they are playing in this year. But can they put it all together to beat the better college football teams that they will play against like Miss State?
This 2017 LSU team has a lot of young talented football players and that could be the opportunity to become an undefeated LSU Tiger. Or a team committing just too many amateurish mistakes to go undefeated. It is all between their Tiger eats now that we the LSU fans can see for ourselves that they have the Physical tools. But do they have the intelligence to put it all together for 60 minutes in Starkville?
This 2017 LSU team has a lot of young talented football players and that could be the opportunity to become an undefeated LSU Tiger. Or a team committing just too many amateurish mistakes to go undefeated. It is all between their Tiger eats now that we the LSU fans can see for ourselves that they have the Physical tools. But do they have the intelligence to put it all together for 60 minutes in Starkville?
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Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:19 am to Thomas Williams
Tune in Saturday to find out!
Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:44 am to memphis tiger
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but lets face it, he is not an NFL level QB.
No one is asking him to be an NFL QB!! He's just supposed to manage the offense and get the ball to the playmakers.
Oh by the way, the same "not an NFL level QB" remark was said by many about Flynn in '07.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 9:50 am to BayouCowboy
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Despite that he led the team to the final score
We didn't score
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Etling was getting hit every time he dropped back he was getting hit.
In football, people get hit frequently. Again there is always an excuse. There is no reason a qb at a power 5 school should have 31 yards passing near the end of the third quarter, or 77 yards passing with 2:15 remaining in the game.
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As for the D not giving up a TD, they gave up drives of 7, 15, 8, 9, 10 and 11 plays. All for FGs. They struggled keeping the Auburn O off the field. It was great they stopped TDs, but this was the worst performance by the D outside of the A&M game.
If your defense doesn't allow a single touchdown all game, and no special teams/defensive touchdowns were given up, you win that game. Period. Again with the excuses. The defense gave up more points and 1st downs to Ole Miss.
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So despite not giving up TDs, you can't give up 6 drives with an average of 10 plays per drive and consider that acceptable.
118 yards vs Auburn isn't acceptable
92 yards vs Bama isn't acceptable
The int from the Ole Miss 24 yard line is unacceptable
The int before the half vs. Louisville is unacceptable
Posted on 9/12/17 at 10:15 am to the_watcher
All Etling needs to do is drive the ship!!
Happy for him!!
Happy for him!!
Posted on 9/12/17 at 11:32 am to the_watcher
You claim to not be purposely shitting on Etling but any time anyone points out any flaws outside of Danny that might have led to him playing poorly, you immediately drum up the excuses for the other deficiency and hammer home the Etling sucks narrative.
So let's look at the shortcomings that you claim Etling should have overcome:
1) being constantly put on his arse- according to you he should still throw for 300 yards despite getting no protection. Even Tom Brady looks like shite when he doesn't get any time. Hell Drew Brees looked rather pedestrian last night because he had no protection, do you think it's his fault the saints couldn't score?
2) the coach mishandling the time management- according to you its Danny's fault time ran out. You never really addressed this issue directly but I'm assuming you think he should have called the plays himself or some other ridiculous expectation.
3) the defense couldn't get off the field- they get a pass because they didn't give up any TDs. While that is commendable, it ignores the fact that during all those 10 play drives, outer offense is on the bench without the opportunity to score.
While everyone who has ever played or watched the sport knows that no loss can be pinned on one person, you seem to think this one is squarely on Danny. Doesn't matter that the D couldn't get off the field, doesn't matter that OL couldn't pass protect, doesn't matter that HC couldn't manage clock. It's all Danny's fault.
For someone who claims to not have an agenda, your comments show a clear agenda to prove Danny sucks and excuse all other shortcomings.
So let's look at the shortcomings that you claim Etling should have overcome:
1) being constantly put on his arse- according to you he should still throw for 300 yards despite getting no protection. Even Tom Brady looks like shite when he doesn't get any time. Hell Drew Brees looked rather pedestrian last night because he had no protection, do you think it's his fault the saints couldn't score?
2) the coach mishandling the time management- according to you its Danny's fault time ran out. You never really addressed this issue directly but I'm assuming you think he should have called the plays himself or some other ridiculous expectation.
3) the defense couldn't get off the field- they get a pass because they didn't give up any TDs. While that is commendable, it ignores the fact that during all those 10 play drives, outer offense is on the bench without the opportunity to score.
While everyone who has ever played or watched the sport knows that no loss can be pinned on one person, you seem to think this one is squarely on Danny. Doesn't matter that the D couldn't get off the field, doesn't matter that OL couldn't pass protect, doesn't matter that HC couldn't manage clock. It's all Danny's fault.
For someone who claims to not have an agenda, your comments show a clear agenda to prove Danny sucks and excuse all other shortcomings.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 11:50 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Yes, he's tough, a leader, and so much better than Harris was - but I wish he would stop missing those intermediate passes. Like against Chattanooga, he had pressure, side-stepped a rusher, but overthrew a wide open receiver 15-18 yards down the field. That's a lost possession that could end up meaning a lot against a quality foe. That's a key to this season i.e. cut down on the three-and-outs and maintain time of possession.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 11:52 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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1) he's tough. You saw it last year when he played without being able to feel his leg at times. When the game is on the line, he's not afraid to run for the first and readily takes on any contact to get the yards necessary.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the kid is basically Brett Favre.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 12:51 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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You claim to not be purposely shitting on Etling but any time anyone points out any flaws outside of Danny that might have led to him playing poorly, you immediately drum up the excuses for the other deficiency and hammer home the Etling sucks narrative.
I have only responded to posts that replied to me. I'm not going through the thread and replying to people randomly. You're obviously upset I'm not responding how you want me to. Should I make up untrue stats? Things that never happened? When your response to me listing stats and facts is that I have a narrative, YOU ARE THE ONE WITH A NARRATIVE.
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being constantly put on his arse- according to you he should still throw for 300 yards despite getting no protection
Please link my post were I said he should throw for 300 yards a game. In his 4 year career he's only done it twice. I do expect more than 120 yards passing though, as does everyone else
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the coach mishandling the time management- according to you its Danny's fault time ran out. You never really addressed this issue directly but I'm assuming you think he should have called the plays himself or some other ridiculous expectation.
Please link where I said it's Danny's fault. Please. When you look and can't find it, maybe you should stop assuming. I said he was responsible for his abysmal passing numbers in that game.
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the defense couldn't get off the field- they get a pass because they didn't give up any TDs. While that is commendable, it ignores the fact that during all those 10 play drives, outer offense is on the bench without the opportunity to score.
LSU had 11 drives in the game. Is that not enough? Through the first 10 he had 77 yards passing.
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For someone who claims to not have an agenda, your comments show a clear agenda to prove Danny sucks and excuse all other shortcomings.
You are arguing a point based on emotions and feelings. I'm responding to them with facts. Just because they don't align with your point of view doesn't mean I have an agenda. Name one thing I've said that isn't true.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:04 pm to the_watcher
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92 yards vs Bama isn't acceptable
The int from the Ole Miss 24 yard line is unacceptable
The int before the half vs. Louisville is unacceptable
So by those standards, Fournette's 35 yards vs Bama is unacceptable and his fault.
And if you search through the season to find mistakes you can find Guice's fumble and wrong direction vs Florida which obviously cost us the game, right?
I'm calling BS on your "I'm not shitting on Etling" statement.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:07 pm to Barbellthor
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again: the kid is basically Brett Favre.
Look, I think Donny can be a good player, but I think it does him a disservice to compare him to a Hall of Fame QB.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:15 pm to BayouCowboy
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So by those standards, Fournette's 35 yards vs Bama is unacceptable and his fault.
He set a school rushing record the literal game before with 284 yards. The previous season he ran for 1,953 yards and 22 touchdowns. Alabama loaded the box with 8 defenders the entire night to stop him daring Danny Etling to pass the football. He couldn't do it.
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And if you search through the season to find mistakes you can find Guice's fumble and wrong direction vs Florida which obviously cost us the game, right?
Please explain in detail what Guice fumbling once has to do with Etling having awful passing stats. Also feel free to link where I said losing to Florida was Danny's fault.
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I'm calling BS on your "I'm not shitting on Etling" statement
Guess I never said this then
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His two best throws were to Stevens on the sideline and to Chark on the sideline on similar routes both of which were fantastic
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:17 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
No, of course not.
There are likely more fans of Etling than you realize.
I am a fan of his. I think he is tough and a capable leader. Danny is not the most physically talented quarterback, but he appears to be a pretty good fit for this team. LSU just needs a game manager, with all the talent at the other positions.
There are likely more fans of Etling than you realize.
I am a fan of his. I think he is tough and a capable leader. Danny is not the most physically talented quarterback, but he appears to be a pretty good fit for this team. LSU just needs a game manager, with all the talent at the other positions.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:19 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Etling is the poo and all the haters need to take a big whiff.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 1:45 pm to the_watcher
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In football, people get hit frequently. Again there is always an excuse. There is no reason a qb at a power 5 school should have 31 yards passing near the end of the third quarter, or 77 yards passing with 2:15 remaining in the game
Here's where you said it doesn't matter that he was getting hit every time he dropped back. According to you, D1 QBs should be accustomed to spending most of the game on their back and it shouldn't affect their performance. Drew Brees and Tom Brady say otherwise but we all know that Danny Etling should be held to a higher standard than them. I mean come on, he's a D1 QB right?
Posted on 9/12/17 at 2:05 pm to the_watcher
You cherry picked stats. You pointed out an INT in the Ole Miss game and one in the Louisville game. I pointed out a fumble and running error by Guice in the Florida game.
You said getting hit a lot in the Auburn game and/or Bama game was no excuse for a less than elite performance. I pointed out Fournette's rushing vs Bama. Apparently OL is a non-factor.
No one is claiming Etling to be an elite QB. He was in the top half of the SEC in most categories last season and is Top 3 right now in QBR. The season's just starting, he's settling in to a new offense and OC, he has new all but one new starting WR. I think he'll do fine.
You said getting hit a lot in the Auburn game and/or Bama game was no excuse for a less than elite performance. I pointed out Fournette's rushing vs Bama. Apparently OL is a non-factor.
No one is claiming Etling to be an elite QB. He was in the top half of the SEC in most categories last season and is Top 3 right now in QBR. The season's just starting, he's settling in to a new offense and OC, he has new all but one new starting WR. I think he'll do fine.
This post was edited on 9/12/17 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 9/12/17 at 2:08 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
He was sacked 4 total times in the game. He was hurried 7 times. LINK So on 27 attempts he wasn't hurried or sacked on 20 passes. And the result was 118 yards passing.
This is now the 3rd time you have done this. You start off a sentence with "According to you" and then you say something I never said. How is this possible? You quoted what I actually said in the same post.
I never said it shouldn't affect their performance at all. I did and am still saying it shouldn't affect their performance so much that they haven't passed the 100 yard passing mark by the last drive of the game.
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According to you, D1 QBs should be accustomed to spending most of the game on their back and it shouldn't affect their performance.
This is now the 3rd time you have done this. You start off a sentence with "According to you" and then you say something I never said. How is this possible? You quoted what I actually said in the same post.
I never said it shouldn't affect their performance at all. I did and am still saying it shouldn't affect their performance so much that they haven't passed the 100 yard passing mark by the last drive of the game.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 2:35 pm to BayouCowboy
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You cherry picked stats. You pointed out an INT in the Ole Miss game and one in the Louisville game. I pointed out a fumble and running error by Guice in the Florida game.
We are discussing Etling passing the football. I pointed out 2 instances where Etling passed the football and it was intercepted that were aggregiously bad. You responded with a fumble BY A DIFFERENT PLAYER who doesn't pass the football. WTF? How does Guice fumbling have anything to do with Etling's passing statistics? How?
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You said getting hit a lot in the Auburn game and/or Bama game was no excuse for a less than elite performance. I pointed out Fournette's rushing vs Bama. Apparently OL is a non-factor.
For the 5th time, I said it's not an excuse to have less than 100 yards passing for an entire game
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He was in the top half of the SEC in most categories last season
Another lie that fits your world view. More facts for you
Passing Yards - 10th
Touchdowns - 10th
Completion % - 8th
QB Rating - 7th
Completions - 10th
Yards per attempt - 5th LINK
Posted on 9/12/17 at 2:54 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
I like all our QBs. I'm an LSU fan.
Posted on 9/12/17 at 3:24 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
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Tell me would rather have that last drive against Auburn or would you want your QB to play like Mett against UGA in '13. Sure he threw for damn near 400 yards but when it came down to crunch time Mett couldn't move the ball.
I'd rather have Mett. Because he was a lot better. By anyone's measure. I honestly don't think you believe the words you wrote.
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LSU never had the chance to win that game cuz Mett couldn't get us in position regardless of how well he played the rest of the game.
Your ridiculous logic shows itself here. You say Mett couldn't get us into position to win the game when throwing for over 300 yds and 3 TDs, when we had less than 100 yards total rushing on the day, and a god-awful defensive performance that allowed 500 yds by the opponent.
He was the primary reason that we did get into position to win the game.
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