re: Accepting Mediocrity is the first step to irrelevance

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Now, do I believe O is accepting mediocrity? Of course not. I actually think the man is giving it his best. Unfortunately, his best is not good enough.

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but you don't KNOW that his best isn't good enough. he has been our HC for one year. give him a chance.

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Too many fans are saying that those of us who want to compete for championships are "spoiled" and "whinny".

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this is a huge misrepresentation of facts. what many of us are saying is that a segment of fans are indeed whining about everything ALL THE TIME.

I doubt if there are any fans willing to accept 4 losses every year. other than one year, Saban averaged 3 losses per year. there were some complainers then too but not like now.

it is bizarre how we ended up with Orgeron as coach. yes, we got spurned by both Fisher and Herman BUT who else was even interested in the job? no one on this board knows that answer factually.

the next AD will have his shot to find a star.

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Have a beer. Cheer loud. Go to the game. If at the end of next year we aren't trending the right way, then complain.

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Uh that’s what weee doing.

Remember that year that just happened and how we lost more games than 2015, including one to a loss to a Sunbelt team and our bowl

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And constantly bitching on the internet equates to “not accepting mediocrity”?

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The bitching on social media has a hand in the image of the program. The bitching, like it or not, hurts the program more than "accepting mediocrity."

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HEEZ NOT MEDIOCORE
FIRST OF ALL

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You're right, 20-25 is somewhat below mediocre status, and maybe attainable next year.

we were in contention the very next year (2012) until tScreenpass

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You're right, 20-25 is somewhat below mediocre status, and maybe attainable next year.

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The last 4 years under Miles was 15-16.. Mediocre......

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Accepting Mediocrity is the first step to irrelevance

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We are already irrelevant.

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My question to you is this, what in the hell is spoiled about wanting to compete for championships?

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Nothing. Everyone on this board wants LSU to be competing for championships. The desire to be the best football program in the country is a similarity on both sides, not a difference.

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What would you have us do, accept 8-4 seasons? Isn't that why we fired the last guy?

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No, no one will accept 8-4 seasons. It is why CLM got fired. Again, this is a similarity between both sides, not a difference.

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By being OK with O going 8-4 you setting the program up for the big fall which could take a decade to rebuild. THAT is the problem with O as a head coach. He's under qualified and could do extreme damage to a program that, 4 years ago, was in the national title conversation EVERY frickING YEAR!

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No one is OK with going 8-4, so your point here is moot. Also, you have no clue how good Coach O can be because he's only been the coach for 1 year. You can't judge how good someone will be at their job with one year of experience in any profession. Saban after 1 year at LSU was mediocre. Saban at Bama after 1 year was worse than mediocre. Point being, get a legitimate sample before forming an all encompassing opinion. This is the difference between the two groups on TD.

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Now, do I believe O is accepting mediocrity? Of course not. I actually think the man is giving it his best. Unfortunately, his best is not good enough. All of the sudden LSU is surrounded by some of the best coaches in all of college football.

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We agree on the first part. O wants to get this program to the top and will work his arse off to get there if possible. Whether his best is good enough is to be seen. I am not ready to say he can't do it after a 9-win season. I don't believe there is enough evidence to say either way. Lastly, LSU has always been in a conference with good coaches, this isn't new and it doesn't change anything.

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Do you really want to O matching wits with the best coaches in football? I sure as hell don't. But you go ahead and accept mediocrity and see where the program ends up in the next fews years.

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Your emo is showing here. If you don't want to support the team because the guy you wanted as head coach isn't in the position then go be a fan of another team, but don't come back if LSU succeeds under this coaching staff. We don't need anymore fair-weather fans, TD has shown there are enough of them here already.

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So we should fire O right now?

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I actually don't think we should fire him right now, just that we should expect more out of the program as a whole. Too many posters on here think going 8-4 is a successful season.

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Louisiana and the majority of its residents have a "Culture of Mediocrity" and it extends to the LSU football program. It's "Good Enough" for them.

Just read the Rant. It's displayed on here everyday in mass. Mass uneducated cheerleading idiots. They love that consistent 9-3/8-4 regular season.

As arse backwards as much of the state of Alabama is, (Just like Louisiana) they don't put up with mediocrity in their football program. Their University President/Chancellor and Athletic Director aren't Athletic MA's like ours are.

Luziana: The Mediocrity State. Party on. Les Bon Temps Rouler.

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When you accept mediocrity, you set yourself up for irrelevance and ultimately, failure.

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Then your parents must be failures, cause they accepted your mediocre arse. STFU!