re: Accepting Mediocrity is the first step to irrelevance

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I expect people to not look for the negative in everything that is LSU football

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If you can give me some positives, I'm all ears. They are few and far between. For every "positive" about the program, there is an equal explanation that is negative. For example, LSU goes 6-1 after the Troy lose. Only problem is that 4 of the teams they beat fired their head coach for poor performance and 1 lost the HC before the season. Another example, LSU finished with a top 15 recruiting class, only it was the lowest rated class in a decade. See how it works? The problem is that there is very little to be positive about.

You literally said

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we don’t know what he’s capable of.

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his best is not good enough

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This is where train goes off the track on here.


Not the first one of you know how true or untrue this is.
You can guess, speculate and ponder on it all day.
But fact is you don't know shite to be true.

Going to have to wait and see.

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If you can give me some positives, I'm all ears.

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Dave Aranda and this defense is gonna be nasty this year. I know about the CB depth issues but I don’t think it’s anything that Aranda can’t handle and scheme around.

You can Start there for positives.

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Constantly looking for the negative does not mean you care more.

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Oh snap

I think the vast majority of us are unhappy with a lot that's happened from the initial HC hire process to the handling of Canada to the OC hire process to the way recruiting ended. It has been addressed and discussed ad nauseum. Yes there are others that try to paint a more unrealistic, rosy view of the state of the program. Some simply look for positives and some just want to talk football.

I'm sick of both extremes. I want to discuss players and the team, how they will integrate into the system, develop, changes to scheme we might expect and what to expect as the season progresses. I'm not interested in this discussion being done through the prism of one's feelings about the HC. Of course, he's a big factor, but not the only one. It doesn't have to devolve into a commentary on O.

I'm sure the BOS and admin are fully aware of the feelings of a large portion of the base and especially the big donors/boosters. TD does not need to drown out other discussion to express their displeasure. Anyway, if the season implodes you will be no factor in what the admin does. It's the results that will dictate change. Sorry to break it to you, but your opinion on the rant just isn't that important to them.

If you are not accepting mediocrity. What steps have you taken to not be accepting?

In all these life lessons you are teaching, what have you done specifically to change the mediocre? There must be quite a few things, given you preach this to everyone as you say.

What level of greatness have you achieved? Because if you have achieved greatness you should have the financial, social, and political clout to illicit change. Please let us know

I know whining in a message board isn’t the lesson, or is it?

Im all for whining on a message board. But I also know that 95% of humans are spectacularly average.

I get a kick out of average folks talking about greatness when they haven’t achieved anything great.

The LSU football program began the drive toward mediocrity and irrelevance the night of the 2012 BCSCG. Coach O is a symptom, not the cause, of the problem.

I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like the Tigers will have to look forward to a steady diet of Music City, Belk and *gasp* Independence Bowls for a long, long time.

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So let me get this straight, a coach who has been around for the better part of 30 years and failed at his only full time HC position and hadn't been offered another since and we don't know what he's capable of?

History is very telling about the future.

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correct. Past history is usually the best indicator of the future. And not a single other college program was chasing (or even interviewing) O for a head coaching position.

And since he's been here, O has hired and fired an OC, lazily promoted from within for his second OC, and had a disappointing recruiting class in 2018, compared with the past 5 years (ranked 6,2,8,5,8) and is the second worst in a decade.