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re: A heads up to Matt McMahon
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:53 am to Mandtgr47
Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:53 am to Mandtgr47
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that LSU was FAR lacking in talent this year to the majority of SEC teams.
Based on what criteria exactly? That they lost? LSU wins = McMahon is a great coach and the players are great. LSU loses = McMahon is still a good coach, but just has no talent, through no fault of his own.. Either way, it's not McMahon's fault, right? For the 3rd year in a row LSU started the season with "McMahon's most talented roster"...that soon had "no talent" by the end of January. Funny how that narrative keeps repeating itself. Is there a common factor?
Nearly 30 different scholarship players have been on the team since McMahon took over. In an era where significant roster rebuilds happen annually, with numerous HCs having success. McMahon is below .500 and has won only 26% of his SEC games. Those aren't made up figures. It's fact! The worst of any coach and any program in the league over the last 3 seasons. Did poor ole Matt just get horribly unlucky an inordinate amount of times? Maybe. But when there are many variables and few constants you start to look at the constants to determine the root cause.
At this point I don't even believe the defense of McMahon is genuine. I think a vocal few are just so dug into their defense, no matter how illogical, that they refuse to give it up...despite every single shred of actual evidence, datapoint, metric, clearly showing the guy is a poor coach (at least among major conf. programs). It's the desire to be the smartest guy in the room who sees everything but the obvious
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Posted on 3/25/25 at 8:58 am to MasterofTigerBait
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Scott is already setting up a 5th year with the NIL leaks I’m afraid,
You are right. And again, when scott gave him the so-called year zero the precedent was set.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:04 am to OceanMan
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There actually is. We clearly play in the best league
This is also the case in football and baseball and we are competitive. What a pathetic excuse. This is LSU not Vanderbilt (who is actually better than us at basketball right now).
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:15 am to Jack Crevalle
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put together enough talent to at least make the NCAA tournament next year
Unfortunately, this is his ceiling at LSU, an occasional spot in the NCAA.
A good run for us should be final four or better, not making the tourney.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:22 am to Madking
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dedicated to making excuses for McMahon
How dare you, you will address him as "McMild"
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:25 am to junior
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Unfortunately, this is his ceiling at LSU, an occasional spot in the NCAA.
This is kind of my problem too, if he had a higher ceiling he would be able to get more out of the players he's had... instead we have 34 double digit arse kickings.
I don't doubt if he is here for 10 years he can sneak into a NCAA tournament once or twice. But what is even the point, we need to build a Program!
Everyone is hobslobbing over replace the team replace the team.
But looking at Florida and Auburn. Most of their contributors have been with the program longer than 1 year. You got to have some foundation at some point.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:33 am to Pnels08
Money talks, but most transfers have to know he's a dead man walking. LSU is now going to have to pay a lot more to get player to come here vs similar programs. 14 SEC schools (and NC State) are more attractive than LSU right now.
This post was edited on 3/25/25 at 9:34 am
Posted on 3/25/25 at 9:50 am to Madking
MM will not be coaching LSU basketball next season.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:02 am to tigerbacon
That's not an excuse. Will Wade had to rebuild the Tigers before 2020 because of a mass exodus after the Sweet 16 season. He did it an the Tigers were an obvious tourney team in 2020 if not for the pandemic
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:07 am to Pelican fan99
You might have some serious issues.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 10:24 am to Madking
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There’s an entire faction of “fans” who are dedicated to making excuses for McMahon.
I'll make excuses for him. This falls on Woodward's bad decision after bad decision:
First CMM shouldn't be in this situation. If Woody fights for WW we are likely in the tournament with the rest of top SEC teams this season.
Second, once Woody fired WW he gave CMM a ridiculous contract like Woody was whale hunting and all he caught was a gafftop catfish. You can't blame CMM for signing that deal.
Third, once the whale contract was signed Woody provided minimal support by SEC standards to help CMM get the talent he needs.
Now this CMM contract is just a burden on the basketball program. CMM is obviously miserable. He seems like a good guy in a bad situation.
Not only does LSU have the burden of a shitty contract to deal with (all Woody's fault), now if they really want to compete for top talent they will have to pay top NIL dollars. If I'm a player worth $1 million on the market, it would take $1.5-$2 million to play for LSU whereas I might give Bruce Pearl or Todd Golden a 20% discount.
The current situation sucks and it's all on Woody.
Just my opinion, but I think LSU should just tank next season and don't waste money. Save the money to buyout CMM next year and then start new.
Lessoned learned: fight, fight, fight.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:06 pm to rds dc
While i do agree having more portal kids might not lead to as much postseason success, i would just like to get to the postseason of the SEC tournament at this rate. Then we can talk about having success in the postseason
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:08 pm to Jack Crevalle
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There is absolutely ZERO reason or excuse
The reason is that he sucks at coaching.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:19 pm to Madking
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But there will be excuses. There’s an entire faction of “fans” who are dedicated to making excuses for McMahon.
While I do agree with this I think it goes both ways. An entire faction of "fans" better keep the same energy if McMahon has a turn around year.
Not saying he will but this argument goes both ways.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:37 pm to tigerbait17
LSU was bottom 2 in NIL spending in the SEC at 1.8m. It’s not really an excuse. I think it’s hilarious some think we should exceed expectations as far as dollars spent every single year like we did last year. Missouri and Vandy spent almost 4x the amount we did in the portal. The reason they had success isn’t just because of the head coach as many were suggesting.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:38 pm to The Truth 34
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I want to fricking puke right now
Makes me sick. We had it all and threw it away.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:42 pm to JWill409
Link?
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:43 pm to rattlebucket
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And again, when scott gave him the so-called year zero the precedent was set.
I know we get on Scott alot here but was it Scott who started the year zero nonsense? I actually don't think it was cause hell....I don't think I've ever heard him speak on the state of the program since CMM took over.
But whoever started that - yeah, IMHO that was rationalization and enablement at it's finest.
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:44 pm to Triple Bogey
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Makes me sick. We had it all and threw it away.
Truth.
Makes me feel this disgusted:
Posted on 3/25/25 at 12:47 pm to Tiger Ugly
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I know we get on Scott alot here but was it Scott who started the year zero nonsense? I actually don't think it was cause hell....I don't think I've ever heard him speak on the state of the program since CMM took over.
There are a lot of narratives that get started and have staying power and when you ask for sources, crickets ensue. Like the WW lied to Scott narrative. Or the fire WW to save football narrative. The year zero crap sounds like nonsense too.
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