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A good, modern offense doesn't require a QB to "read the entire field"
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:08 pm
I am going to make a longer and more detailed thread about this tomorrow, but many on this board see the game with dinosaur lenses on. Modern offenses scheme guys open and create scoring opportunities. They do the heavy lifting and QBs (this applies to the NFL, too, nowadays) only have to operate that offense.
Trent Dilfer was on Russillo this week and he explained it incredibly well (I'll go into detail on my main thread tomorrow). The offensive scheme/calls should account for about 35-55% of production, pretty much automatically.
Even NFL QBs don't "read the entire field" or "go through progressions". It's just not the way modern offenses work. You have 1-2 reads and then it's a scramble drill. The burden is on the offense to be creative and efficient.
Our problem is that the Kelly/Denbrock offense is more antiquated.
Summary: JD is playing well in a bad, uncreative offense. His issues stem from scheme/system, but even within the bad scheme, he's developing.
Trent Dilfer was on Russillo this week and he explained it incredibly well (I'll go into detail on my main thread tomorrow). The offensive scheme/calls should account for about 35-55% of production, pretty much automatically.
Even NFL QBs don't "read the entire field" or "go through progressions". It's just not the way modern offenses work. You have 1-2 reads and then it's a scramble drill. The burden is on the offense to be creative and efficient.
Our problem is that the Kelly/Denbrock offense is more antiquated.
Summary: JD is playing well in a bad, uncreative offense. His issues stem from scheme/system, but even within the bad scheme, he's developing.
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Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
You stay at a holiday inn last night or something?
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:11 pm to ezride25
Been making this argument since the conservative, early Miles era.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
I complained almost all through the Miles era. Not interested in doing that again. Hopefully Denbrock isn't as bad as you claim.
This post was edited on 9/24/22 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
Not sure why youre getting downvoted
Its a dumb fricking offense
frick denbrock
Its a dumb fricking offense
frick denbrock
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
am going to make a longer and more detailed thread about this tomorrow,
Don’t
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:15 pm to Burt Reynolds
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Not sure why youre getting downvoted
Their high school coach probably taught them a different way.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:Thanks for letting us all know. I'll be sure and block off part of my Sunday to read and absorb what I'm sure will be an awesome analysis. I fully expect it to be high quality, like your prediction that Terrence Tolliver would be a first round draft choice.
I am going to make a longer and more detailed thread about this tomorrow,
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
Did you marry a liberal chick or something
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
I 100% agree with you.
But, does a modern offense require a quarter back to throw to players who aren’t uncovered and to throw to receivers in stride?
But, does a modern offense require a quarter back to throw to players who aren’t uncovered and to throw to receivers in stride?
This post was edited on 9/24/22 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:16 pm to coolpapaboze
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I fully expect it to be high quality, like your prediction that Terrence Tolliver would be a first round draft choice.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
When you run long, slow developing, pass routes, the QB must see the entire field.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
I agree with your main point about how modern offenses are designed. Even with that said, Daniels sometimes fails to see open receivers that simply have to be in his pre snap read. Attending the Miss State game in person made this really clear. For example, I saw him look dead at an outside WR slant, inside guy out route combo, I which both receivers broke wide open. JD double clutched then ran. I do not mean to suggest he’s a bad player— to the contrary, I think he is good player—but at least some of the issue with “seeing the field” appears to be on him.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:19 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
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but at least some of the issue with “seeing the field” appears to be on him.
I'm not disagreeing
He shouldn't have to "see the field" like that. This offense is making him do it because it's a dino offense.
I'll put it this way. We get Lincoln Riley instead of Kelly and then get JD to transfer. Does anyone think JD is performing like this in a Riley offense? No way.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:20 pm to coolpapaboze
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I fully expect it to be high quality, like your prediction that Terrence Tolliver would be a first round draft choice.
You remember his draft predictions from 12 years ago?
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Even NFL QBs don't "read the entire field" or "go through progressions".
Go get checked out you may be retarded.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Does anyone think JD is performing like this in a Riley offense? No way.
100%
Riley requires throws in anticipation of getting open and accurate throws in stride.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:22 pm to nugget
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from 12 years ago
Likely longer ago/earlier in his career, actually
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
Please make more excuses for JD. I lost count of how many peoples fault it is but his.
Posted on 9/24/22 at 8:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
Depends who he is going against. If its against aranda, riley’s offense looks like this if not worse
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