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re: 2 well respected posters on Tigerbait confirm that Milles and Frank Wilson
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:09 pm to LSURussian
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:09 pm to LSURussian
quote:
Turn that question back on yourself.
I know my answer...I don't know yours so I'll ask again....are you trying to argue semantics or do you believe the defense at USC while Orgeron was there was his defense or Monte Kiffin's?
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 1:10 pm
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Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:13 pm to easy money
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:15 pm to LSUfan4444
Seems legit.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:16 pm to MountainTiger
Kyle Phillips tweeted that Brick is staying... so no Orgeron for DL coach
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:16 pm to LSUfan4444
quote:That question isn't what I've been addressing in this thread. Several posters have claimed EO has NEVER been a DC which is simply not accurate.
are you trying to argue semantics or do you believe the defense at USC while Orgeron was there was his defense or Monte Kiffin's?
You're so desperate to save face that you're just trying to change the question and move the goal posts rather than admit that Orgeron has been a Defensive Coordinator. I'm not claiming he was an effective Defensive Coordinator, just that he HAS BEEN a Defensive Coordinator.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:25 pm to LSURussian
I'm not trying to save face at all. I've never said he has't been a DC or he isn't qualified to be a DC, I'm simply asking a question about your intentions and what is behind them. Im not quite sure why you're so apprehensive about answering a very simple question so I'll ask again; do you think the defense at USC while Orgeron was there last truly his or are you just trying to argue semantics?
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:29 pm to LSUfan4444
Have you never been in a debate with Russian on here? 90% of them are usually about semantics.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:32 pm to josh336
Uh...people are saying O wasnt a DC or held a managerial position, both of which are factually inaccurate. Most of those posters who originally stated as such have disappeared from this thread. It's not Russian's fault they're lazy.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:33 pm to josh336
HERE COME THE DOWNVOTESSSS
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:38 pm to josh336
quote:
Have you never been in a debate with Russian on here? 90% of them are usually about semantics.
Not that I really remember. I kinda get that feeling though. I THINK he is just trying to argue semantics and just tell people "look, you're wrong" and trying to play the smarter guy in the room card. BUT, should he really think that was Orgeron's defense, the discussion could be quite different.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:41 pm to FranMully
quote:
Kyle Phillips
Who?
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:41 pm to josh336
quote:What is semantics about the 6 websites I linked which describe Orgeron as the DC?
Have you never been in a debate with Russian on here? 90% of them are usually about semantics.
It's semantics to argue he wasn't the DC even though that was his official title. "Yeah, okay, he was the defensive coordinator but not really." That is arguing semantics....
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:43 pm to RainMan
quote:
RainMan
Hot water Burn Baby!!
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:43 pm to PurpGold 14-0
quote:
Uh...people are saying O wasnt a DC or held a managerial position, both of which are factually inaccurate. Most of those posters who originally stated as such have disappeared from this thread. It's not Russian's fault they're lazy.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:48 pm to LSURussian
quote:
What is semantics about the 6 websites I linked which describe Orgeron as the DC?
The semantics would be whether you believed the defense at USC was his defense therefore nullifying the argument that he has "never been a DC before"
OR
were you able to find sources that his title was DC even though the defense was Monte Kiffin's and you think that nullifies the sentiment being made when people say he has never been a DC
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:50 pm to Smalls
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:51 pm to LSURussian
SFP addressed the differences between a title and the role a coach plays in some cases. You're stuck defending his title while 4444 is asking about his role. This could be ended if you would just answer his question IMO. Unless you actually would rather argue (literally) about semantics.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:54 pm to LSUfan4444
quote:How does that nullify the argument? Do you think while he was the Head Coach AND Defensive Coordinator at Ole Miss he wasn't responsible for the defense there?
therefore nullifying the argument that he has "never been a DC before"
WTF is you agenda here?
I've explained why I first replied in this thread. Posters were saying EO should not be considered for the DC opening at LSU because "he has NEVER been a DC." That's not an accurate statement.
Why you keep trying to use semantics to "nullify" the accuracy of the links I provided while accusing me of using semantics is beyond me.
Posted on 1/1/15 at 1:58 pm to LSURussian
quote:
I've explained why I first replied in this thread. Posters were saying EO should not be considered for the DC opening at LSU because "he has NEVER been a DC." That's not an accurate statement.
That explains it...you don't think it was his defense at USC, but he had the title so you're just trying to correct people. Got it.
quote:
accusing me of using semantics
Because you don't believe it was defense, but since he had the title you will argue it to correct someone else and "be right".
The discussion of whether or not the defense at USC intrigues me...what his title was is fricking meaningless to me.
This post was edited on 1/1/15 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 1/1/15 at 2:05 pm to LSUfan4444
So I can help out, it was Kiffin's defense. Orgeron has never actually had the role of defensive coordinator. Therefore, it is sort of a gamble.
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