re: What Are The Problems Recruiting the QB Position?

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the state doesn't produce that many great QBs consistently. our high schools are very option oriented and many QBs in HS are simply the best athlete on the team. we do recruit a lot of them, but they end up at WR/CB/RB RP was an elite talent. the mannings were elite talents. most of the other guys are developmental types like JJ or lester ricard look at our list of QBs in the modern LSU era booty: from LA but had a stint in the MLB rohand: from florida mauck: from indiana (i think) randall: developmental mobile LA QB JR: bama flynn: texas lee: texas JJ: developmental mobile LA QB our recruiting in TX has taken a slight step back, so i think our opportunities in signing QBs from TX has been hurt. zack lee probably would have been a good one, though we also had roster issues. in 2006-2007 we had a big glut of QBs, which i'm sure affected recruits' decisions. then 2008-2011 we had essentially a horrible passing offense (b/c we lost the young RP, who likely scared off decent recruits prior). it was a night/day roster issue that just couldn't help i dislike miles' offensive philosophies, but i don't think they are a big reason. UGA still recruits top-notch QBs and they're pretty boring on offense, too. sometimes programs just go through periods of missing on QBs. look at FSU/Miami for the past decade or so. look at what's wrong with Texas currently

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Finally,I agree with one of SFP's posts! Hell has frozen over!

Too hard to following "The 2nd Most Winningest QB in LSU History" Jordan Jefferson......

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1/9/2012

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I would argue that the events occuring between 11/5/2011 and culminating 1/9/2012 have had a significant impact on QB recruiting.

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I would argue that the events occuring between 11/5/2011 and culminating 1/9/2012 have had a significant impact on QB recruiting.

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but you'd be wrong. The kids don't see it the same way hard core LSU fans do. Most are probably not as aware there was a "contraversy"

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If I'm an in-state kid, I'm pretty sure I would have realized something was going on between the Bama games. Out of state I might agree with.

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Yeah, there was something going on. We were kicking the shite out of everybody regardless of who played QB.

ETA: Plus we've already established there really aren't any in-state QB prospects right now.

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If I'm an in-state kid, I'm pretty sure I would have realized something was going on between the Bama games.

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Probably would have realized LSU was beating the shite out of everyone and winning the SEC Championship?

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OSU makes a 37 yds FG and its not an issue at all.

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Aarrgh, this! If OSU just makes that damn field goal (which may very well have gone in anyway), we probably go down as the most accomplished college football team in history.

Oh well, no use crying over spilt milk.

Has absolutely nothing to do with anything that happened last year. Kids just don't look at things like that and they don't overreact the way we do. They have no dog in the fight and even if they did they'd still go to LSU if they cared that much about LSU. Remember the comments Landry made for a year about our offense? Where did he sign? Our passing game didn't improve. He just loved LSU.

Imo our QB troubles is not recruiting at all, it's just that we haven't developed the kids well that we've gotten and some bad luck. JJ/JL were ruined that 2008 season when they were forced to develop and play too quickly. Part of that is development or lack thereof without question but part of it also is mental. JL was never the same after that year. He played well last year for the most part and good for him and I'm thankful he did but he still had that deer in headlights look and was not the qb he was capable of being. Zach Lee was a very good talent and would likely be our QB this year if not for baseball(maybe last year as well). We've been in the thick of things for qb recruits but just haven't landed the big ones. That's recruiting. We landed Kiel and it seems everyone just passes that off but Les and Krags deserve a ton of credit for that. Nothing they nor Gunner could do about momma. That was a very strange and unusual occurence.
Most of the big time qbs end up at the same schools and most schools take one every year. Our problem over the past few years is that we limit our options at QB. This year we've spread out our target list ans the staff deserve credit for that. We just haven't landed one yet. We have had interest from every qb we've been after finishing 2nd for Barrett, Mitch and word is that Bateman had us 2nd. We're close but just haven't landed our guy yet. We will.

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Imo our QB troubles is not recruiting at all, it's just that we haven't developed the kids well that we've gotten and some bad luck.

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Alright, so the problem is we don't develop good QBs. That is on the coaches. And that is what other schools tell the QBs that we are recruiting. And then they point to 1/9 and the JJ/JL misjudgment.

Most the QBs we recruit did not watch most of LSU's games last year. However, every one of them watched 1/9. Perception is reality, like it or not. I have talked to recruits here in GA and they generally hit three consistent points when the subject is LSU: 1) LSU is elite; 2) they like Miles; 3) LSU has a bad offense and you don't want to play QB there. That is the perception and perception is reality. Urban Meyer talked about how bad our offense was on ESPN last year...you don't think he talked about it to JT Barrett (or would have if he needed to go there)?

Now, I hope we let Mett throw the ball downfield and he has a good year. I think we need at least a year or two to change what people (especially recruits) think about LSU's offense. I think Krag is a good QB coach, something we have not had for some time. It was sad to watch Lee come to the sidelines and not pick up a phone to our supposed QB coach/OC but instead talk the whole time to Ensminger...as if he was looking for help anywhere he could find it. Unfortunately, Krag is not a good recruiter...never has been. So we are in a difficult spot right now.

Ponamsky today was swearing up and down today that 1/9 is not being used as a talking point during recruiting by other coaches. He said schools negatively recruit about Krag's health, but not QB play the last few years and in the NC. His reasoning is that they don't wanna put it in the kid's head that he could be the missing piece. He was practically yelling at Ott today about how he covers recruiting for a living and kids aren't being told this by other staffs. I see his point, but it's either naive or extremely homeriffic. DP has been covering recruiting too long to be that naive, so he was pretty much just doing his usual koolaid sell.

I give Krag credit for being a much better recruiter than Crowton, which is not saying much, but he's also fighting the stigma LSU's earned itself the last 4 yrs. His recruitment of Keil was impressive, but the bottom line is he didn't sign. Even though it was out of his control, LSU has got to get results--regardless.

I'm still waiting to see what he brings as a QB developer; his resume there isn't as great as people make it out to be. Mett's got a ton of hype and tools but he needs to be smart and accurate this year, two areas Krag can have direct impact. He also has his work cut out w/ Rivers, Randall, and Liggins.