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re: We need to sign 9 OL recruits in the next years class
Posted on 9/19/21 at 4:58 pm to moock blackjack
Posted on 9/19/21 at 4:58 pm to moock blackjack
O talking to Central Michigan LT after the game. Maybe talking him into transferring.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 5:25 pm to moock blackjack
We're going to be hurting for a center. They can coach/train/practice someone into the role... but from what I've seen we don't have a natural one with the snap consistency and can handle SEC DTs... not to mention assignments.
We needed one bad this year to start the development curve. It's redline critical now.
My gut tells me JUCO will be the first place to look unless a rare find pops up in the portal.
Now it is very, VERY, unlikely we sign 9 OL in a given year. That would put a kink in other positions pipelines given that 3 years (if lucky) is the max for studs.
Overload on OTs.
We needed one bad this year to start the development curve. It's redline critical now.
My gut tells me JUCO will be the first place to look unless a rare find pops up in the portal.
Now it is very, VERY, unlikely we sign 9 OL in a given year. That would put a kink in other positions pipelines given that 3 years (if lucky) is the max for studs.
Overload on OTs.
quote:lol... NO. Don't get me wrong, I'd jump for joy- for hours. Raimann will graduate soon (this is his 4th year), is an exchange student, just might lose his visa if he transfers, will likely seek his MBA or at least start it next year, lives with a host family who also has a son on the team (TE who took his spot when he moved from TE to OT), and most importantly is on that Pace/Mandarich/Fanaca level of salivating by NFL scouts.
O talking to Central Michigan LT after the game. Maybe talking him into transferring.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 9/19/21 at 5:42 pm to I20goon
Raimann is Dillinger’s buddy!!
Posted on 9/19/21 at 5:54 pm to moock blackjack
quote:
We need to sign 9 OL recruits in the next years class
Shea talked yesterday about LSU using the transfer portal replacement players for a lot of this. HS guys take some time to develop. Transfers ought to be ready.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 6:25 pm to GetmorewithLes
It’ll be interesting to see what the new coach does to fix the problem
Posted on 9/19/21 at 6:38 pm to GetmorewithLes
quote:As far as the portal and centers go there's one in the portal right now worth a look- Orlando Umana. He played some C at Utah, and they run a spread offense (shotgun snaps). Note- look at. He's not a no-brainer.
Shea talked yesterday about LSU using the transfer portal replacement players for a lot of this. HS guys take some time to develop. Transfers ought to be ready.
As far as OTs:
Prince Sammons (AU) is out there. Injury prone and hasn't done much at Auburn. Not a fan and there's a reason we didn't pursue him (Grimes) years ago.
Justin Scrempos (San Jose) is worth a look. If he hasn't put on bad weight, and it seems he did, he's got some skills. You'd want him to come work out for us. I wouldn't rely on film.
But other than those 2 there's not much worth looking at right now.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 6:43 pm to moock blackjack
Since the 19 class Bama has signed 15 OL recruits between hs guys and transfer portal
Since 19 class LSU has signed 9 OL recruits
Since 19 class LSU has signed 9 OL recruits
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:29 pm to Mbeloso
quote:And ten of them are OTs.
Since the 19 class Bama has signed 15 OL recruits between hs guys and transfer portal
quote:4 of them are OTs.
Since 19 class LSU has signed 9 OL recruits
To have a good, solid, OL you will have to develop "projects" because there is not enough no-brainers out there. Period.
Ideally you want to do it in 1.75 years (i.e. have them getting quality reps at the end of So. year). Usually takes slightly longer than 2 years... about 2.1. And there's 5 of them.
You don't have to have experience in statistics to know that with the development curve of 2 years, 5 positions, many of the no-brainers are gone after year 3, and a fail rate of about 35% (fail= can't contribute to the 2 deep) that you need to be recruiting 6-8 per year.
Now there's a couple of ways to "cheat" this curve and have to recruit less in a given year:
1. If you can get a no-brainer, especially an OT, and have him contributing and maybe even starting in year 1 then the next year you can skimp a little. Your fail rate is lower and the time used by that stud can be used to develop his replacement without having to feed the pipeline.
2. Use OTs for OGs. Accelerates the development curve as far as experience and data shows that it also causes the OLman to put more effort into S&C in that next offseason also accelerating development.
3. Year 0 (i.e. as soon as committed) feed that player or his HS coaches a training regime focused on feet, agility, and flexibility. Conventional and unconventional routines. This holds so many OL back it is crazy. And it is hard to "cement" into their training; you can develop it, but it is harder to maintain it than say strength for example. Start early, very early.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:38 pm to moock blackjack
Injuries and the big bodies seem to go hand in hand. One reason alone for going for volume.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:09 pm to I20goon
quote:
But other than those 2 there's not much worth looking at right now.
Sounded like the bonus spots will come open after ESD or NSD. NCAA wants to protect the HS players and getting schollies. Who knows what will be in the portal then
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:58 pm to moock blackjack
Agree accept you Always need Defensive linemen. Just like you Always need O Lineman.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:17 pm to The Pirate King
This and the truth is Louisiana doesn’t produce offensive lineman at any where near the same rate it does wr, dL, db’s and other positions. If we had four top 250 four star dudes coming out every year we would get the majority of them like we do most of the instate talent and one five star a year from 500 miles away shafting us on signing day wouldn’t sink the program.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 11:35 pm to moock blackjack
The OL crop is actually really solid this class.
The problem is O can’t foresee issues and doesn’t recruit until it’s a
Huge issue.
The problem is O can’t foresee issues and doesn’t recruit until it’s a
Huge issue.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:56 am to moock blackjack
I like this idea of signing 8 or 9 OL recruits for next year's class. It does help that in this 2022 class, there are more highly rated OL in state than usual, and so far, LSU has done a very good job getting their commitments.
But landing even more should be a priority.
I do think the team has plenty of talented DL and WRs, so no need to sign 4 or 5 of them.
But landing even more should be a priority.
I do think the team has plenty of talented DL and WRs, so no need to sign 4 or 5 of them.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:54 am to I20goon
There is a true center at Pearl High School in Mississippi that would LOVE to be at LSU in this 2022 Class. Definitely a project dude but serviceable. 6'2 290lbs.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 7:56 am
Posted on 9/20/21 at 8:08 am to dstone12
quote:
How could an sec coach NOT make EVERY position a priority?

Posted on 9/20/21 at 9:52 am to Tigahs2007
quote:Davion Carter? He's at JUCO.
There is a true center at Pearl High School in Mississippi that would LOVE to be at LSU in this 2022 Class. Definitely a project dude but serviceable. 6'2 290lbs.
Played in the AL/MS all star game. Definitely a project but yeah, is a true center with experience snapping in shotgun.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:02 am to OGTiger
He has absolutely made it a priority. Just hasn't worked out and it didnt help having Cregg here.
Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:21 am to I20goon
Davion came from Pearl and is a true dawg but there is a senior there too. Connor Foy. Pearl runs out of the shotgun 99% of the time.
I think Davion visted for the McNeese game.
I think Davion visted for the McNeese game.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 10:22 am
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:23 am to moock blackjack
I’ve said several times the Offensive line was the unit most in need of upgrades. It alll starts there. I’m hopeful Davis will be able to land some studs but if the NCAA does go thru with the roster replacements, LSU should make it a priority to target the best linemen available.
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