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re: We need to sign 9 OL recruits in the next years class

Posted on 9/19/21 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by japes3
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 4:58 pm to
O talking to Central Michigan LT after the game. Maybe talking him into transferring.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17528 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 5:25 pm to
We're going to be hurting for a center. They can coach/train/practice someone into the role... but from what I've seen we don't have a natural one with the snap consistency and can handle SEC DTs... not to mention assignments.

We needed one bad this year to start the development curve. It's redline critical now.

My gut tells me JUCO will be the first place to look unless a rare find pops up in the portal.

Now it is very, VERY, unlikely we sign 9 OL in a given year. That would put a kink in other positions pipelines given that 3 years (if lucky) is the max for studs.

Overload on OTs.
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O talking to Central Michigan LT after the game. Maybe talking him into transferring.
lol... NO. Don't get me wrong, I'd jump for joy- for hours. Raimann will graduate soon (this is his 4th year), is an exchange student, just might lose his visa if he transfers, will likely seek his MBA or at least start it next year, lives with a host family who also has a son on the team (TE who took his spot when he moved from TE to OT), and most importantly is on that Pace/Mandarich/Fanaca level of salivating by NFL scouts.
This post was edited on 9/19/21 at 5:31 pm
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
106196 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 5:42 pm to
Raimann is Dillinger’s buddy!!
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 5:54 pm to
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We need to sign 9 OL recruits in the next years class


Shea talked yesterday about LSU using the transfer portal replacement players for a lot of this. HS guys take some time to develop. Transfers ought to be ready.
Posted by Rosenblatt
Member since Apr 2019
6294 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 6:25 pm to
It’ll be interesting to see what the new coach does to fix the problem
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17528 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 6:38 pm to
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Shea talked yesterday about LSU using the transfer portal replacement players for a lot of this. HS guys take some time to develop. Transfers ought to be ready.
As far as the portal and centers go there's one in the portal right now worth a look- Orlando Umana. He played some C at Utah, and they run a spread offense (shotgun snaps). Note- look at. He's not a no-brainer.

As far as OTs:
Prince Sammons (AU) is out there. Injury prone and hasn't done much at Auburn. Not a fan and there's a reason we didn't pursue him (Grimes) years ago.

Justin Scrempos (San Jose) is worth a look. If he hasn't put on bad weight, and it seems he did, he's got some skills. You'd want him to come work out for us. I wouldn't rely on film.

But other than those 2 there's not much worth looking at right now.

Posted by Mbeloso
Gonzales
Member since Dec 2019
612 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 6:43 pm to
Since the 19 class Bama has signed 15 OL recruits between hs guys and transfer portal
Since 19 class LSU has signed 9 OL recruits
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17528 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:29 pm to
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Since the 19 class Bama has signed 15 OL recruits between hs guys and transfer portal
And ten of them are OTs.
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Since 19 class LSU has signed 9 OL recruits
4 of them are OTs.

To have a good, solid, OL you will have to develop "projects" because there is not enough no-brainers out there. Period.

Ideally you want to do it in 1.75 years (i.e. have them getting quality reps at the end of So. year). Usually takes slightly longer than 2 years... about 2.1. And there's 5 of them.

You don't have to have experience in statistics to know that with the development curve of 2 years, 5 positions, many of the no-brainers are gone after year 3, and a fail rate of about 35% (fail= can't contribute to the 2 deep) that you need to be recruiting 6-8 per year.

Now there's a couple of ways to "cheat" this curve and have to recruit less in a given year:

1. If you can get a no-brainer, especially an OT, and have him contributing and maybe even starting in year 1 then the next year you can skimp a little. Your fail rate is lower and the time used by that stud can be used to develop his replacement without having to feed the pipeline.

2. Use OTs for OGs. Accelerates the development curve as far as experience and data shows that it also causes the OLman to put more effort into S&C in that next offseason also accelerating development.

3. Year 0 (i.e. as soon as committed) feed that player or his HS coaches a training regime focused on feet, agility, and flexibility. Conventional and unconventional routines. This holds so many OL back it is crazy. And it is hard to "cement" into their training; you can develop it, but it is harder to maintain it than say strength for example. Start early, very early.
Posted by Woodman
Seattle WA
Member since Aug 2009
2297 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:38 pm to
Injuries and the big bodies seem to go hand in hand. One reason alone for going for volume.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
20980 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:09 pm to
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But other than those 2 there's not much worth looking at right now.


Sounded like the bonus spots will come open after ESD or NSD. NCAA wants to protect the HS players and getting schollies. Who knows what will be in the portal then
Posted by jheine2
lafayette
Member since Oct 2006
460 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:58 pm to
Agree accept you Always need Defensive linemen. Just like you Always need O Lineman.
Posted by BiggaGeauxrilla
North Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
2378 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 10:17 pm to
This and the truth is Louisiana doesn’t produce offensive lineman at any where near the same rate it does wr, dL, db’s and other positions. If we had four top 250 four star dudes coming out every year we would get the majority of them like we do most of the instate talent and one five star a year from 500 miles away shafting us on signing day wouldn’t sink the program.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75621 posts
Posted on 9/19/21 at 11:35 pm to
The OL crop is actually really solid this class.

The problem is O can’t foresee issues and doesn’t recruit until it’s a
Huge issue.
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
7059 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 12:56 am to
I like this idea of signing 8 or 9 OL recruits for next year's class. It does help that in this 2022 class, there are more highly rated OL in state than usual, and so far, LSU has done a very good job getting their commitments.

But landing even more should be a priority.

I do think the team has plenty of talented DL and WRs, so no need to sign 4 or 5 of them.
Posted by Tigahs2007
MS
Member since Dec 2013
174 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 7:54 am to
There is a true center at Pearl High School in Mississippi that would LOVE to be at LSU in this 2022 Class. Definitely a project dude but serviceable. 6'2 290lbs.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 7:56 am
Posted by b-rab2
N. Louisiana
Member since Dec 2005
12706 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 8:08 am to
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How could an sec coach NOT make EVERY position a priority?


b/c then non of them would be a priority anymore
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17528 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 9:52 am to
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There is a true center at Pearl High School in Mississippi that would LOVE to be at LSU in this 2022 Class. Definitely a project dude but serviceable. 6'2 290lbs.
Davion Carter? He's at JUCO.

Played in the AL/MS all star game. Definitely a project but yeah, is a true center with experience snapping in shotgun.
Posted by SpillwayRoyalty
Member since Nov 2019
570 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:02 am to
He has absolutely made it a priority. Just hasn't worked out and it didnt help having Cregg here.
Posted by Tigahs2007
MS
Member since Dec 2013
174 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 10:21 am to
Davion came from Pearl and is a true dawg but there is a senior there too. Connor Foy. Pearl runs out of the shotgun 99% of the time.

I think Davion visted for the McNeese game.
This post was edited on 9/20/21 at 10:22 am
Posted by kwtiger70
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
858 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 11:23 am to
I’ve said several times the Offensive line was the unit most in need of upgrades. It alll starts there. I’m hopeful Davis will be able to land some studs but if the NCAA does go thru with the roster replacements, LSU should make it a priority to target the best linemen available.
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