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This is why stars matter

Posted on 10/23/22 at 10:24 am
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
8777 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 10:24 am
All it takes are a couple elite players to change the game.

Let me introduce #40...
Posted by LuzianaFootball
DC
Member since Dec 2008
8025 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 10:36 am to
We don't need stars to tell us he is a beast. So many ranking services are biased, uninformed, and lazy. That's why people say stars don't matter.
Posted by BentonTiger7
Benton, LA
Member since Sep 2011
2384 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 10:40 am to
quote:

That's why people say stars don't matter.


Those people aren't very smart. There will always be outliers but star rankings definitely matter overall and there are a ton of stats to prove it.
Posted by releauxded2469
Boise, ID
Member since Jan 2015
1932 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 10:44 am to
quote:

That's why people say stars don't matter.


I guess there is some other reason why teams like Ohio State, Bama, Georgia, etc. always field top 10 teams. Stars definitely matter in college.
Posted by Folsom
Folsom
Member since Mar 2006
3455 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 10:48 am to
We don't need stars

Ask Alabama if they like stars.
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4867 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 11:03 am to
Stars matter...to an extent. They're not the end all, be all. You're less like to turn a team full of only 3-stars into a national contender. But some 3-stars blossom late and play like 5-stars. Plus there are other factors like good coaching. But in the end, a team mixed with 4 and 5 star players has a better chance at contending than a team with none.
Posted by hall59tiger
Member since Oct 2013
2742 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 11:15 am to
Stars matter at important positions: Jack, CB, QB, WR. There are some positions where having elite players really changes the game. Perkins is showing out but we have a good offense with a walk on RB
Posted by LSU Bayou Jim
Houma, LA
Member since Feb 2013
1096 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 11:16 am to
Ask 8T4 if the five stars saved this team.........
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84096 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 11:22 am to
Difference makers come in all shapes and sizes and rankings. But Harold is a true 5 star . And we are just getting a glimpse of what he will become.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
8777 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 12:50 pm to
Positions of importance in order:
-LT
-QB
-DE
-CB
-WR
-LB
-S
-RB
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
6161 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 1:15 pm to
How many stars did Josh Williams have coming out of high school?
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
8777 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 1:18 pm to
I love Williams, but he's the exception to the rule.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
62927 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

We don't need stars

Ask Alabama if they like stars.


Alabama has been a dynasty for over a decade with tons of 5 star players.

This is a dumb statement.
Posted by Tigershine
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2015
1740 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 1:33 pm to
The coachs' evaluations matter much more. That's why I check to see who else offered. That to me says more than the stars.
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
5319 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 1:33 pm to
Williams had an injury in HS, and still had schollie offers to lesser schools. He wanted LSU enough to walkon.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
39565 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 1:55 pm to
People who say stars don’t matter, on average, are coping so hard.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31964 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 2:13 pm to
Anyone can identify the elite players. No one ever argues that.

This is a straw man.

Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
27810 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

We don't need stars to tell us he is a beast. So many ranking services are biased, uninformed, and lazy. That's why people say stars don't matter.


The services can be all of the above. They rely on a guy’s offer sheet to do their job for them in a lot of cases and they definitely miss more than they should. That said, they are right more than they are wrong.

As Bama, UGA and OSU have shown, the key isn’t landing one 5 star or high 4 star. It’s stacking them. It’s also about building a culture that gets these star player to buy into playing roles within a team concept. The staff also has to consider team needs, roster balance and even recruiting with an eye toward future team leadership into account.

Based on what we’ve seen from Kelly and his staff so far, they seem to get all of the above. Now it’s just about whether they can seal the deals and get the final signatures.

All this said, it’s still worth while to take a few 3 stars who you evaluate as having the potential to grow into great players. They can be depth guys who may blossom into a Josh Williams or a Charles Turner who stay and end up playing a role as experienced vets. This is especially important on the lines where you need a lot of depth and continuity.
This post was edited on 10/23/22 at 2:21 pm
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3644 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

The coachs' evaluations matter much more. That's why I check to see who else offered.


This would be the ideal way but schools throw out tons of offers but only a very few are immediately committable. So unless you could ask the coaches or see their boards its kind of difficult to judge that way. With that said if you follow recruiting you can kind of get a feel for whose pushing for who and maybe that is the way to go.
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
6149 posts
Posted on 10/23/22 at 3:14 pm to
He is better than Will Anderson at this time in his career and Will A was getting Heisman talk this year.
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