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Should Goodrich Have Had a Commit-able Offer In December?

Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:31 am
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:31 am
Simple question....When Surtain didn't sign during the early signing period should we have given Goodrich a commit-able offer?

I'm thinking maybe....I'm not sure how that early signing period is going to change things ultimately but in hindsight you're damn right he should have had one

ETA Was the talent difference between the two enough to risk losing both of them for the chance that Surtain would stick with us?
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 8:33 am
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:33 am to
Yes.

Bird in hand
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:34 am to
lesson- take the commits when they come.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:35 am to
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Yes.

Bird in hand


That's pretty much where I lean....wanted to see what other people thought too
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:36 am to
Obvious answer is HINDSIGHT is always clear, but if you have a top tier recruit who WANTS to be an LSU Tiger, you take him now and adjust your strategy.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:36 am to
Yes.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:39 am to
quote:

if you have a top tier recruit who WANTS to be an LSU Tiger, you take him now and adjust your strategy.


I think that this early signing thing is going to have us all rethinking how we used to think on stuff like this.

I'll be honest in the old way (and hell probably this year too) I would have been a bit concerned if O took a commit from Goodrich while Surtain was still saying that we were the leader....because that would effect our standing.

Now that we know a little about what the early signing period would do I think I would back off on that 100%.

Like you said it is all hindsight now so who knows how we would have truly reacted had we taken a commit from Goodrich in early January with Surtain still on the fence.
Posted by Game2620
Canada
Member since Dec 2013
1429 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:42 am to
Yes. He was a better prospect than Washington. Could’ve had his slot anytime he wanted.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:44 am to
The fact we had 3 spots left and only were recruiting 4 players (Chase, Surtain, Goodrich, Foster) and they thought Goodrich was #4 tells me they had no clue what they were doing.
Posted by CP3forMVP
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:49 am to
Yes.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:52 am to
I'm glad to see a lot of folks think like I do.....I mean that was really the first thing I thought when Ed talked about trying to convince him to spurn Clemson and come here Tuesday night.....why the hell didn't we do that after the early signing day when Surtain didn't sign??? I mean that had to throw up at least one red (no pun intended) flag right?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:38 am to
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The fact we had 3 spots left and only were recruiting 4 players (Chase, Surtain, Goodrich, Foster) and they thought Goodrich was #4 tells me they had no clue what they were doing.




its not far fetched when they thought they were getting Surtain
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:40 am to
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its not far fetched when they thought they were getting Surtain


You can feel good about landing a recruit while being prepared for the possibility that it falls through. There are no locks in recruiting.

If you have two great players at a single position be prepared to take both of them.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:43 am to
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If you have two great players at a single position be prepared to take both of them.



and for the people complaining the last 6 months that there was no QB in this class?
Posted by Eatem up
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2017
570 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:50 am to
Yes. Although neither Donte nor KT2 had declared for draft yet you had to assume they were. Coach O even said so in press conferences. I thought they took one to many 3* D lineman. Should have saved more schollies for the 2nd signing period because you know your team’s needs better after jr’s declare. Should have been room to offer 2 CB’s because of the need. Even after early signing period with only 4 spots left they should have accepted Goodrich. I would have left out Foster if necessary. He was never a strong lean.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:56 am to
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Bird in hand


Sucks that O said the one thing he’d do differently—be MORE selective during the early period—is the exact opposite of this.
Posted by mcpotiger
Missouri
Member since Mar 2005
8207 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:07 am to
No Question.. yes.
Posted by Retlaw
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Sep 2013
1253 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:09 am to
I don’t get prioritization of Foster over Goodrich. That was the critical
mistake in managing recruiting this cycle. Taking Goodrich had no impact upon the decision Surtain ultimately made to go to Bama and it at least would have confirmed that you got one of the CBs targeted down the stretch.

The Foster obsession was just dumb.
Posted by wildcat81tiger86
Member since Feb 2014
1002 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:11 am to
Thunderbird is spot on.

The recruiting Board itself was a clusterfrick regardless of what Lester Earl wants to say.
The need for cb's was just as valid as the need for a qb.
Coach O even knew that Fulton is not out of the doghouse yet but still thought that getting 1 cb and 2 db's total in this class is truly mind blowing.

Nothing more to say than the overall recruiting strategy; decision making and execution of the so called plan all deserve an F.

It does not matter to me if you think that you filled some holes that you have been pointing your finger at the previous staff for or not - you created a gaping hole at another position all on your own.
How ironic Coach O.

Blame others but do the same thing that they did.
What a load of b.s. and deceit.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284888 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:23 am to
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It does not matter to me if you think that you filled some holes that you have been pointing your finger at the previous staff for or not - you created a gaping hole at another position all on your own.
How ironic Coach O.


you said this a few weeks ago


Imo Goodrich is the better overall player but Foster is the player at a more vital position.
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