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re: RSJ & Diarse

Posted on 6/9/12 at 8:54 am to
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
48926 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 8:54 am to
quote:

If we are able to reel in RSJ, arguably the best WR in the country, does that all but guarantee that Diarse will be moved to DB.
Your thinking is flawed.
Why even post this?
The main thing is to actually get the recruits, then let the staff worry about who benefits the team in what position.

I just don't understand some of the thinking here.
Posted by lsueddie18
Jacksonville Florida area
Member since Mar 2012
438 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 9:45 am to
RSJ is another Plexico Buress. I feel sorry for any CB trying to cover this dude in the red zone. Putting him at TE is stupid talk so stop it!
Posted by LSU Nguyener
Mzone
Member since Feb 2012
834 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 9:49 am to
quote:

I just don't understand some of the thinking here.


My thinking was that RSJ held the keys to the rest of our recruiting strategy. If we get him and Diarse moves to DB, then we would only sign one more DB for the class. I was not trying to troll and take a shot at Diarse's ability. It was more about the strategy for the next commits we get, that's why I said the dominoes will fall when RSJ signs
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79062 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 9:50 am to
If we get RSJ to go with Leslie, Parker, Baker, and Diarse, I don't think it necessarily means that Diarse moves to safety. I think it means that we have some WR attrition.

Leslie will be gone in 2 years, RSJ in possibly 3, Baker and Diarse in 4, and Parker in 5.

They're all different types of WRs at varying levels of development, so I don't really see why we couldn't take all of them and have them all stay at WR.
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
32952 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 9:54 am to
Of that group, I only see RSJ playing as a freshman.

Diarse, baker, and Parker will redshirt IMO. None of them, as freshmen, will be better than obj, Landry, Leslie, and wright.

Dural and johnson are no Armand Williams and Fobbs either
Posted by lsufanva
sandston virginia
Member since Aug 2009
13626 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 10:07 am to
Agree though I can see Diarse playing as a freshman. His wr skills are just so natural that he could impress in practices. I have major questions about Avery Johnson. Not with his talent but with his brain and work ethic. If Henry gets through to him then we've got a stud but if not, Avery might not be at LSU long.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13454 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 10:28 am to
Diarse is a really interesting recruit. He might even be the swing recruit that makes this class special. I'm a little more intrigued with what he could do as a safety, especially since he would have the advantage of thinking like a quarterback.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79062 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 10:30 am to
One thing is, with the way out WR corps is currently set up, every guy in the '13 class has the chance to get a lot of time by their second year in the program.
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
13454 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 10:35 am to
quote:

One thing is, with the way out WR corps is currently set up, every guy in the '13 class has the chance to get a lot of time by their second year in the program.



The '12 class is tough to take a firm stance on, but Travin Dural has a chance to be really special (as I've been pretty outspoken on). The guy is a natural... great hands... and his athleticism has been criminally underplayed (as his track measurables have attested).

Holmes was a really good gamble. Even if he develops strictly as a return specialist... reminds me a bit of Jacoby Jones. And Avery will be as good as he wants to be.
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
79062 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 10:39 am to
The '12 guys are all stretch the field guys, the '11 guys are unique, I don't know how to classify them (except Turner who is a slot guy). But the '13s compliment the '12s and we'll need a mix of them on the field.
Posted by 41bengal
Da' Ville
Member since Jun 2009
2110 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 10:58 am to
culd see diarse play both wr and safety having that many wrs coming in the class he is that special. like a malcom mitchell at uga without the speed.
Posted by LSU Nguyener
Mzone
Member since Feb 2012
834 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 11:59 am to
I would love to see Diarse be a ball-hawking safety in the Ed Reed mold. But either way, it's a good problem to have.. the kid is special
Posted by 41bengal
Da' Ville
Member since Jun 2009
2110 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 12:18 pm to
yes a great problem to have.
Posted by ezrulz
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2011
1332 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 7:10 pm to
My sources are saying that the coaches believe Kyrion Parker is a five-star talent based on all the kids they've scouted. With that in mind, I believe theres a very good chance he sees the field from day one. The things I'm hearing about this kid just keep getting better and better.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27318 posts
Posted on 6/9/12 at 7:22 pm to
We are stacked for the next couple of years at WR just like we are stacked at RB right now. If we don't sign another WR in this class that would be fine with me because I believe replacing a 94 with a 95 in the line up isn't going to help LSU as much as pulling in a 93 DL or even another DB.

Our cup runnith over.
Posted by TimTBlows20032007
Haughton
Member since Nov 2011
449 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 3:01 am to
Which do you think is more important to RSJ?? Being able to play basketball and football or playing wr over TE. I had heard that Texas was looking at RSJ as a TE but that he wanted to play WR. At the same time Texas also was opposed to him playing both sports. We are on board with him playing both sports but if he comes to LSU do you think he would be opposed to a move to TE? With his size and speed he would definitely pose as a mismatch to everyone. Like Deangelo was supposed to do had he had better qb's slinging the rock... I just look at how deep we are becoming at WR and cant help but notice how we are kind of lacking true talent at the TE spot...Just some food for thought. I dont care either way so long as he suits up for purple and gold!
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
90148 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 4:06 am to
The word is white looks real good at wr. Despite his size, he may be the only non juco to see pt next year. Oh and the scouts are loving white, he might be the best la player committed rt now.

I dont mind taking wrs, we need them. Really no telling how some progressed. We dont know what the next crop can bring, just like qbs that follow mett.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 4:16 am
Posted by kevlanmei
New Taipei City (Tamsui)
Member since Jul 2011
975 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:11 am to
There has to be some common sense though. No team has unlimited schollies. And WR is probably the easiest position to project (for how a high school kid will perform in college).

It simply makes no sense for LSU to take 5 WRs in our 2012 class and only 3 O-linemen (which is the most difficult position to project). Just looking at what we brought in over 2011 and 2012 at O-line; combined with needing 5 on the field at a time (vs 3 WRs) - it would be screwy to spend extra schollies on WR.
Posted by kevlanmei
New Taipei City (Tamsui)
Member since Jul 2011
975 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 6:16 am to
Oh, and back to the question on the 1st page, the player that Diarse most resembles (skillset wise) is former LSU running back Dalton Hilliard. Stocky, strong legs, not blazingly fast, but very quick and darting with his elusiveness.

And yes, I think his absolute best chance at "stardom" as a college football player would be at a full-time tailback. He would be a great inside runner, a great swing pass receiver (getting him into the open field), and very intelligent at all the intangibles.

I know it isn't gonna happen; no one other than me ever even mentions it. But it's my genuine belief.
Posted by tigerbru17
Billy in 4C
Member since Jan 2009
10254 posts
Posted on 6/10/12 at 7:51 am to
The fail in this thread is unreal.. It amazes me how people can get so caught up in the star rankings. John Diarse is the best wr in the state. If all you know about him is that he's a little slow, not that tall, could play D, then you shouldn't post like you have a freaking clue how this guy will project. One person made a very accurate comparison. Michael Clayton is the closet to John. He also reminds me of Randle. After people actually pay attention and watch when he wins yet another 4a crown, they will be screaming he's the best player in LA and needs the ball in his hands.
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