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re: Oklahoma 247 staffer said this is how Texas A&M is coordinating these NIL deals
Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:07 pm to molsusports
Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:07 pm to molsusports
Call me crazy but I wish NCAA football had not jump the shark like it has! It sure hasn’t improved the game, between opting outs, transfer portal and now the NIL $…….in my opinion it has ruined college football!
The NCAA could’ve relaxed the rules regarding student athletes being able to work, stipends etc…..and be more flexible but instead they didn’t budge and here we are!!
The cost to attend A&M for 5 years (including everything) is roughly $250,000 (for in-state) over $300,000 for out of state.
Call me crazy but if people do not think that a full ride at a school like A&M (or any other) is enough for a student athlete, then I don’t know what to tell you!
By the way, I was a student-athlete at A&M and I am grateful for the financial help they gave me and the opportunities and connections that A&M provided after graduation
The NCAA could’ve relaxed the rules regarding student athletes being able to work, stipends etc…..and be more flexible but instead they didn’t budge and here we are!!
The cost to attend A&M for 5 years (including everything) is roughly $250,000 (for in-state) over $300,000 for out of state.
Call me crazy but if people do not think that a full ride at a school like A&M (or any other) is enough for a student athlete, then I don’t know what to tell you!
By the way, I was a student-athlete at A&M and I am grateful for the financial help they gave me and the opportunities and connections that A&M provided after graduation
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:35 pm to HoustonTigerNKaty
Even if there is advertisements what good does an athlete have on an oil/gas company advertisement it’s not like sneakers or clothes seems like a waste of money in general
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:31 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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They’re paying players, no doubt, but these numbers are completely made up.
It’s not made up. This is the cash they are throwing around. They’re big brother is about to join the club. They have to win now or they never will. They can outspend anyone in this conference right now.
They can’t outspend UT.
This NIL crap has to be reigned in to some degree.
Our 2019 title may be the last pure national championship ever won
Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:45 am to Geauxld Finger
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They can’t outspend UT.
20-10 years ago, that was certainly the case simply because ut had a bigger alumni. That is certainly not the case any more, today we have roughly the same number of alumni (around 530k to 550k).
Plus it is a well known fact that A&M’s former students typically give back more to their university than any other school. This has allowed us to grow exponentially financially as A&M has grown tremendously in the last 20 years or so.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 5:26 am to andyv95
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This has allowed us to grow exponentially financially as A&M has grown tremendously in the last 20 years or so.
And yet you still cant beat LSU's 3rd string team
Posted on 1/3/22 at 6:28 am to Geauxld Finger
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It’s not made up.
Link the source.
So far the source is an OU message board.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 6:39 am to classicgold
quote:LSU's TAF has pulled in roughly the same amount, in some cases more, donation revenue than TAMU's 12th Man Foundation (with the exception of a big lump sum donation in the Manziel era) every year. In short, our boosters are giving and have access to roughly the same amount of money.
Aggies have a ton of money and boosters that want to win so badly they are willing to shell out the money. LSU’s boosters, on the other hand, have seen winning in their lifetime, so they aren’t as hungry. They have shelled out so much buyout money over the years that they are gun shy to spend on 17 year old kids. This is a fact
Unlike Crimson Tide, both TAF and 12th Man file 990's that are publicly available and this is out there to verify.
So you are right in one sense that it is a matter of want, not means. But don't forget, TAMU is on it's 3rd coach since deciding to join the SEC (Sherman, then join SEC, Sumlin, the Jimbo) having to pay two buyouts. We're on our second buyout in over the same time span. So, once again, we're on equal ground in regards to booster money.
So if donations are about equal, and buyouts are roughly equal.... TAMU is obviously more organized and have a bigger want than LSU.
I want LSU to beat TAMU in all things, including recruiting which leads to beating them on the field. I want some of this. I don't hate it. I want LSU to do the same, but better.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 7:38 am to I20goon
Texas A&M brings in nearly $50 million more a year than LSU. We can't compete. It is what it is. We are still top 15 though.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 7:48 am to Jabontik
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nd yet you still cant beat LSU's 3rd string team
It was a team full of walk-on’s not 3rd stringers…….clown! You got lucky when the refs bailed you out!
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:01 am to tenderfoot tigah
quote:People keep saying things like this. And it is wrong. Y'all keep talking about school revenue, endowments to the school, etc. All that matters with athletics and NIL is booster money. That's who your primary spenders for NIL outside the legitimate advertisers (i.e. using NIL for its real purpose- to buy players).
Texas A&M brings in nearly $50 million more a year than LSU. We can't compete. It is what it is. We are still top 15 though.
TAF's 2020 form 990 donations: 46 million USD, 65 mil total revenue
12th man, 2020: 58 million, 55 million total revenue
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 8:02 am
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:06 am to Lester Earl
I think this should make A&M play in the NFL or another professional league, personally. Collegiate players shouldn't be on a school's payroll.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:21 am to andyv95
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You got lucky when the refs bailed you out!
And you guys didn’t get some calls in 2018?
That game should have ended on a recovered fumble and even the SEC office admitted the last PI was bullshite. Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:21 am to LSUstudent4life
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There has to be some type of commitment or advertisement by the player, right?
Nah, the entire issue was poorly handled. Very poorly handled.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:39 am to andyv95
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You got lucky when the refs bailed you out!
Should we print the cups? Sounds like we should print the cups.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 8:57 am to Byrdybyrd05
Texas coming to the SEC forced their hand too.
They have to assert dominance over Texas early to hold Texas off for a while
They have to assert dominance over Texas early to hold Texas off for a while
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:18 am to ipodking
Yet they will still lose 3-4 games next year because Jimbo is just not that great a coach simple
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:48 am to ItTakesAThief
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Texas coming to the SEC forced their hand too.
They have to assert dominance over Texas early to hold Texas off for a while
Correct. The reason A&M went nuts for this class was because of Texas coming to the SEC. Jimbo was already involved with shady recruitments (M. Jackson) but big brother coming to the SEC scared the shite out of the aggies. The monster they've created is not sustainable because teams will just copy their bullshite NIL model or the NCAA will wake up and kill it.
Also what's being offered to these prospects are promises in a lot of cases. If for whatever reason things don't play out the way things were sold it could get ugly. I know the previous LSU staff was hammering this home to a prospect who was going back to LSU telling them how much A&M was going to pay him and his family.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 9:49 am to Stew2581
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Yet they will still lose 3-4 games next year because Jimbo is just not that great a coach simple
When you have talent like that to work with you don't need to be a great coach. Was Orgeron a great coach in 2019? No, but he was a competent coach pre 2020. Jimbo is just as competent, maybe more so, than O. If aTm keeps their NIL program in full on mode, no reason to think they don't start winning multiple NC's in the near future.
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:23 am to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:. I believe it and am not surprised. We better be prepared to fight fire with fire.
I still don’t believe any of that
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:54 am to andyv95
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Plus it is a well known fact that A&M’s former students typically give back more to their university than any other school
Cult. The word you are looking for is cult. They give back to their cult like a Scientologist would. But gayer.
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