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re: Now I see why Jay Johnson was disgusted

Posted on 6/18/24 at 5:30 am to
Posted by smoke225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7916 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 5:30 am to
Neal was straight dogshit this year!
Posted by KennytheTiger
bella vista ar
Member since Apr 2012
409 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:52 am to
Some of our fans are dogshit, it happens.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
4820 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 6:59 am to
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He was looking for promises about starting we were probably not willing to give.



Maybe Neal could've promised to actually catch the ball more
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59297 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 8:25 am to
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Boy cannot catch



...and his demonstrative disbelief after he hit another pop fly as if he couldn't understand how he, being such a great hitter missed it, kind of got old.

Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1972 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 8:40 am to
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Well apparently Neal forgot the part about not sucking in order to be promised to start



Watching people talk about Neal has been absolutely wild lol like was I just watching a totally different guy or something?


Neal had a .986 OPS (.408 OBP / .578 SLG). That was third best on the team (behind Tommy and Jared Jones) and third best among SEC catchers with at least 100PA. He had 9HR in only 116 at bats--an average of one HR every 12.8 at bats. For comparison, Tommy averaged one HR every 11.6 at bats this year. In 2023, Dylan Crews averaged one HR every 14.3 at bats.



Anyone claiming that he sucked this year just straight up isn't living in reality. Even if he posts that exact same batting line next year, that's a big loss. Then you consider that he was the age of a true freshman this past year, and still doesn't have a ton of college reps, and it's easy to see the potential to make another major leap.



I'm sorry, but if your standard is that 19yr olds have to be better than 2024 Brady Neal or else they suck and we don't want to keep them, then you're gonna have an incredibly tough time rooting for this or any other college baseball team.



In fact, let's do another comparison:

--Ashton Larson: .827 OPS (129pts lower than Neal), only 4 months younger than Neal

--Jake Brown: .810 OPS (146pts lower than Neal), only 3 months younger than Neal

--Steven Milam: .931 OPS (55pts lower than neal), 2 months OLDER than Brady Neal



Bottom line: If you think Neal sucks then you should certainly think Larson, Brown, and Milam suck too.
This post was edited on 6/18/24 at 8:54 am
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73512 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 8:41 am to
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Anyone claiming that he sucked this year just straight up isn't living in reality.


Now do conference stats
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
Member since Aug 2008
4799 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 8:43 am to
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2) Jay didn’t develop them in the years they have been at LSU (and in some cases, the player regressed)


I always find this angle interesting. Same coach, Neal doesn’t develop but jones does? Hurd doesn’t but Herring does? You can do this with tons of players.

So when players don’t develop it’s on the coach. However, there are players, under the same coach, that do develop. So which is it? The coach or the player?
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
3576 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 8:48 am to
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However, there are players, under the same coach, that do develop. So which is it? The coach or the player?
ignore him. The majority of his post on the rant is just him shitting on Jay as a coach, recruiter, and developer.
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1972 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 9:31 am to
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Now do conference stats



Kid hardly even got a chance to play in conference play. By a quick count, it looks like he was in the lineup for 10 of 35 total conference games
Posted by LifeAquatic
Member since Dec 2019
1972 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 9:34 am to
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Brady Neal got opportunities in the post season



He didn't have a single plate appearance in the SEC tourney
Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
2061 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 9:52 am to
Neal was the worst Catcher I have ever seen in P&G. He literally could not catch. I would like to know how many bases and runs he costs us this year by simply missing balls?
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
22135 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 10:04 am to
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the players were not good enough which is a talent evaluation issue for Jay


You recruit mainly off of potential. I've seen enough to know that players can develop under Jay, if a player has the potential and doesn't get better, that isn't always on the coaching staff.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75273 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:06 pm to
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Neal probably got upset about the veteran catcher coming in and Jay probably told him there would be a competition.


who?
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35462 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:08 pm to
Blaise
Posted by Tigershine
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2015
1722 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:20 pm to
Luis Hernandez from Indiana State
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75273 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:21 pm to
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Luis Hernandez from Indiana State


barely plays Catcher.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75273 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 12:22 pm to
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Blaise


I dont think that’s a a veteran. He’s the same class as Neal.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
10364 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 1:45 pm to
Neal is not even in Milams league dude.

And yes Neal had plenty of opportunities and he failed repeatedly. Freshmen like Milam got his opportunity and flourished.

Fact of the matter is some dudes just have it and some don’t. And your boy just didn’t have it at this level. Sorry
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
10364 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 1:49 pm to
Yea and there was a reason why he wasn’t playing in conference games
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
21430 posts
Posted on 6/18/24 at 2:21 pm to
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Kid hardly even got a chance to play in conference play.


He started or played in 12 of the first 15 SEC games. In those games, he was 3-31.
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