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Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:10 am to SpencerRob
10000% I agree!
Berry should be an LSU Tiger. I’m not saying he shouldn’t.
Im just wondering why Nate Sheppard isn’t getting looks.
Speed kills in the open field, but a running back needs to have the vision to see the hole and hit the hole. If he can’t do that then the speed will never flash.
In all the film I see of Sheppard he has the patience, vision, and quickness to see and hit the hole without much hesitation. He also has the ability to make people miss while navigating through traffic.
All this against much better, week after week, competition than Berry.
Sheppard is literally doing more against better. That has to count for something.
Berry should be an LSU Tiger. I’m not saying he shouldn’t.
Im just wondering why Nate Sheppard isn’t getting looks.
Speed kills in the open field, but a running back needs to have the vision to see the hole and hit the hole. If he can’t do that then the speed will never flash.
In all the film I see of Sheppard he has the patience, vision, and quickness to see and hit the hole without much hesitation. He also has the ability to make people miss while navigating through traffic.
All this against much better, week after week, competition than Berry.
Sheppard is literally doing more against better. That has to count for something.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 9:20 am
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:13 am to chalmetteowl
I said St Tammany. Ruston and Neville are the giants in that division, I know. I’m talking about St Tammany contenders.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:18 am to armydude
Plot twist, its not Nate's Dad, its Nate......
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:23 am to BetaPhi681
Hahaha who me?
I’ve never met the Sheppard family in my life.
I’m just somebody that does not pay attention to Star Ratings, or recruiting titles.
I let the players body of work and athletic ability do the talking.
Nate Sheppard has checked both boxes for me. Berry…only 1.
Unfortunately Berry will have to check that box while in a Tiger uniform because IDGAF who he plays or what stats he puts up against 1A competition. Half the kids he playing against wouldn’t make the JV team at Mandeville.
I’ve never met the Sheppard family in my life.
I’m just somebody that does not pay attention to Star Ratings, or recruiting titles.
I let the players body of work and athletic ability do the talking.
Nate Sheppard has checked both boxes for me. Berry…only 1.
Unfortunately Berry will have to check that box while in a Tiger uniform because IDGAF who he plays or what stats he puts up against 1A competition. Half the kids he playing against wouldn’t make the JV team at Mandeville.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 9:29 am
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:24 am to armydude
LSU will regret not pursuing Nate Sheppard. He will have success wherever he goes.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 9:27 am to GumboPot
Yeah. They are going to let this one get away for sure.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:12 am to armydude
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Sheppard lead this Mandeville team to a playoff run they had no business being in last year. They lost to Ruston, (who wound up winning state) 1 game before making it to the dome.
None of this has any relevance to who is the better recruit. Neither does what class of competition their schools are.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:22 am to armydude
Marcus Spears played in 1A
Michael Clayton played in 2A
Devin White played in 3A
Jarvis Landry played in 3A
OBJ played in 2A
Charles Scott played in 2A
Stevan Ridley played at a small private school in Mississippi
If you can play, it doesn’t matter what size school you play at.
Michael Clayton played in 2A
Devin White played in 3A
Jarvis Landry played in 3A
OBJ played in 2A
Charles Scott played in 2A
Stevan Ridley played at a small private school in Mississippi
If you can play, it doesn’t matter what size school you play at.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:32 am to armydude
quote:
Im just wondering why Nate Sheppard isn’t getting looks.
Why do you assume he isn't?
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:32 am to GeauxLSU4
Sign them both!! 
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 10:33 am
Posted on 9/30/24 at 10:52 am to GeauxLSU4
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If you can play, it doesn’t matter what size school you play at.
exactly as coaches will find you .... especially today with the www, film, 7x7's, and CFB camps.
a few other RB's who played at small HS's that went on to great success
2A - Eric Dickerson
1A - Marcus Dupree
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:34 am to armydude
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I’m just somebody that does not pay attention to Star Ratings, or recruiting titles.
Do you think these are not accurate or don't matter?
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:42 am to armydude
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What makes Harlem Berry better than Sheppard?
Tip-top tier verified athletic testing, elite lateral quickness, true WR-like pass-catching ability, etc.
Here's a nice little comparison point for you, OP: As a HS Junior, Sheppard ran an 11.5 100m dash. As a HS Sophomore, Berry ran a 10.5.
If you use volume stats from HS football as your first criterion for recruiting, you're going to absolutely hate what your roster looks like in a couple years. Just FYI: A 190lb guy who runs 11.5 is not an SEC back.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:44 am to armydude
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I believe level competition, and how a player performs against that competition holds more value than any star designation.
Harlem Berry is shredding his competition. It is weak for sure. But it’s not like Mandeville has played a team with a pulse either. Carver cancelled their season last year and are a DIv II select school.
they’re slightly better bad teams, but they’re bad teams.
This post was edited on 9/30/24 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 9/30/24 at 11:49 am to armydude
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I’m just somebody that does not pay attention to Star Ratings, or recruiting titles.
I let the players body of work and athletic ability do the talking.
Okay well then Harlem Berry should be lightyears ahead of Sheppard. 1) Berry's body of work is elite. 15yds/carry as a sophomore, plus elite showings in 7x7 and camps. 2) Sheppard doesn't belong on the same field as berry athletically. As a junior, Sheppard's 100m dash was a full second slower than Berry's time as a sophomore. Berry has consistently posted elite marks in all his verified athletic testing. He's the fastest guy at every damn camp and event he goes to. Sheppard isn't even in the same stratosphere.
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Unfortunately Berry will have to check that box while in a Tiger uniform because IDGAF who he plays or what stats he puts up against 1A competition. Half the kids he playing against wouldn’t make the JV team at Mandeville.
Kinda like how far more than half of the kids Sheppard is playing against wouldn't make an SEC roster? Right? So if the HS competition for both guys is far short of what they'll see at the next level, then shouldn't we be looking at stuff like camp and 7x7 performance? Oops, Berry blows Sheppard out of the water there, too.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 12:24 pm to LifeAquatic
Give me an honest answer here; you watch Shepard’s tape and think his 100m is relevant ?
I will say this ; I was that guy once, and I did the same thing with Derrius Guice and he made me look like an idiot.
You are crazy if you think foot speed is an issue for him.
I will say this ; I was that guy once, and I did the same thing with Derrius Guice and he made me look like an idiot.
You are crazy if you think foot speed is an issue for him.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 12:29 pm to chalmetteowl
Bad 1A schools and bad 5A schools are not alike and you know that.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 1:03 pm to Lester Earl
St Martins has play 3 bad 4A schools and a bad 3A school.
its not like he’s playing Ecole Classique every week.
its not like he’s playing Ecole Classique every week.
Posted on 9/30/24 at 1:10 pm to SammyTiger
The Willow School, Patrick Taylor, and McMain are some of the worst teams in the state, regardless of size
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