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Bayoufightingtiger
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Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
Remember when we had top 5 recruiting classes and finished the season not ranked in the top 25 under Miles? The inability to sign an absolute stud at QB has been the biggest problem for our program. Mettenberger brought life back into the program and we have had nothing since.
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whitefoot
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Member since Aug 2006
3100 posts

re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
Place and time, man. Today was bad. No matter how you slice it. And me saying that has nothing to do with rankings.


Bayoufightingtiger
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Member since Aug 2011
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re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
What was so bad? Losing a recruit to the national champion? I knew like other that Surtain was not coming here. We need a QB who can take over and win games.


I-H8-BAMA
Grambling Fan
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
8613 posts

re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
That may be true in some conferences. Not the SEC. If you're thin in a certain position group it shows. We better fricking PRAY we don't have an injury at corner this year. I wouldn't be surprised to see them give Jacoby Stevens a look at corner. I mean we are paper thin. Could have had Goorich to soften the blow but Orgeron put a stop to that. The kid wanted to commit but we gotta wait for the long shot qb. frick.


saintsfan22
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baton rouge
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re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
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We need a QB who can take over and win games.


We didn't get that either


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Tigerbait357
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Member since Jun 2011
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re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
If Les Miles class ranked #15 people would lose their minds


Sure it addresses needs in the trenches but that talent level isn't elite.

We add no QB's, only 1 DB

Not a horrible class but for LSU standards, it failed

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Joe Mantegna
Chicago Cubs Fan
Shreveport
Member since Oct 2007
7729 posts

re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
That 2009 class which was ranked no 1 by ESPN formed the base for that 2011 team...so that's something.


BasilBogomil
Mercer Fan
Edinburgh, UK
Member since Dec 2012
4855 posts

re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
People are as pissed about the depth/talent issues at CB and rightfully so. The rankings reflect the hole in this class.







Bayoufightingtiger
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2011
3589 posts

re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
Do you realize that 2019 will be much better with the in state talent? The CB position will not be a problem. Games are won in the trenches and solid QB play. How many games we won single handily because of a CB? None


Bayoufightingtiger
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2011
3589 posts

re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
In 2016 LSU finished #2 in recruiting. So 2018 will be the year then.


martiallaw
Colorado Fan
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
745 posts

re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
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How many games we won single handily because of a CB? None


These are just a couple of the notable games of fmy heads where the game was swung or dominated because of the CB's of LSU
LSU-Texas A&M 2010 Cotton Bowl
LSU North Carolina (Peterson, Badger)
LSU Miss St (Peterson)
LSU-West Virginia 2010 (Peterson) LSU West Virginia 2011 Badger
LSU-Arkansas 2011 Badger
LSU-Georgia SEC Championship Game Badger
LSU Bama 2011 Ed Reid, Claiborne
LSU Louisville 2016 Jamal Adams


BasilBogomil
Mercer Fan
Edinburgh, UK
Member since Dec 2012
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re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
Football is a team sport. That said, I've seen CBs make numerous game saving plays. Also seen them make game losing plays (see playoffs Vikings v. Saints).

I realize that Louisiana is loaded in 2019. I also realize that Coach O may be on the hot seat or worse after next season (schedule is a beast, 7-8 wins is a legit possibility). So, I guess I'm just not convinced we will have a great class next year.

My real issue with this class is after all the talk about Les Miles having great classes but leaving big holes each year, Coach O does the same damn thing (and it was unforced).


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BRAXLSU99
LSU Fan
Beaumont
Member since Jul 2017
467 posts

re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
Very bad...We at least get our DB's every year..until we turned the reigns over to shrimp boat...


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PinevilleTiger
LSU Fan
Pineville, LA
Member since Sep 2005
4952 posts

re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
Who the hell gave you that little tidbit? LSU hasn’t even sniffed #2 in recruiting in almost a decade!!! Give me Bamas #1 classes for the past 6 years and I can coach a team to the play-offs!!! It’s all about recruiting!


Powerman
LSU Fan
Virginia
Member since Jan 2004
134305 posts

re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
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What was so bad?


You sort of answered your own question.

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Losing a recruit to the national champion

Yeah one that we play every year. To make matters worse it was at a position of need. A position where we signed 0 players this year. It's a pretty big loss.

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I knew like other that Surtain was not coming here.

Perhaps it should disturb you that you had more insight on this matter than our staff?

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We need a QB who can take over and win games.

We didn't sign one of those either. The rankings aren't what matter. Complete goose eggs on 2 positions of need will hurt this program.


Bayoufightingtiger
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2011
3589 posts

re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
Single handily? I think not. You must of forgot about the contribution from the rest of the team.


Powerman
LSU Fan
Virginia
Member since Jan 2004
134305 posts

re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
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Single handily? I think not. You must of forgot about the contribution from the rest of the team.


But to act as if they aren't important is stupid.

One thing defensive backs can definitely do for you is lose games. If our #2 corner is weak then it's pitch and catch all day for any QB worth a damn. One thing you definitely don't want on defense is a glaring weakness in your secondary. Especially at corner.


boxcar willie
LSU Fan
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
10755 posts

re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
take this into account also. Dantrieze Scott is our lowest ranked player and the 799th ranked player in the country. Do you really feel they got that right? Would you want him out this class? Really it's more about the players we didn't get: 2 out of Surtain, Goodrich, or Foster than what we did land. So missing on two players, granted, two good ones, is making this place blow up.


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Bayoufightingtiger
LSU Fan
Member since Aug 2011
3589 posts

re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
So we have elite CBS and still lost to Bama. What's your point? Better QB play and they don't beat us 7 straight. How in the hell these 2 guys will beat Bama? We couldn't beat them with all American CBs.


martiallaw
Colorado Fan
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
745 posts

re: Most of you put way too much stock in recruiting rankings
I said those were games where the CB's "dominated or swung the game". But yea Honeybadger pretty much "single handedly" beat Arkansas and Georgia in 2011. Dude was amazing.


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