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re: LSU Baseball 2025 (and beyond) Recruiting Thread
Posted on 7/7/25 at 12:52 pm to jembeurt
Posted on 7/7/25 at 12:52 pm to jembeurt
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Still begs the question why Costello, Larson and Ryan/Hogg didn't want to stay.
Personal opinion but I think Ryan and Hogg were "grass is greener" decisions on their part.
Costello and Larson I think are both decisions to find a spot closer to home. Sucks because I thought both of them had a spot to contribute next season.
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:01 pm to jembeurt
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Not counting Frey, LSU has 9 position players possibly coming back next year when you count the two portal players. This seems really low. If the draft hits LSU hard (worst case scenario) the incoming players would only bring it to 15-16. Last year had 22.
They at 10 right now not counting Frey. Daniel Harden is a JUCO transfer also that you probably not counting.
If I had to guess they will likely end up settling around 16 position players and 18 pitchers.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:03 pm to BayTiger13
For Hogg and Ryan I would think it was about a faster route to the field. Neither was going to play SS, and with Dardar coming in, that would only leave 3B open.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:03 pm to Tigerfan14
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If the HS class is worse than expected it would leave more money for current players who are on the fence or HS guys who are getting offered slightly below their number.
I think this works the same for the portal funds. I get the sense that we have some money leftover from what we intended to spend in the portal this year. Maybe we use that to sneak out one of these freshmen who are on the fence or maybe Jay decided to spend a big chunk on a guy like Frey.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:30 pm to hall59tiger
This isn't a bad thought. It doesn't appear we have spent big in the portal. It would make sense to spend more on returning players. Frey might be better than anything in the portal. Guys like Noot, Shores, Mayers, Ware, Cowan might be enticed to up their draft price with some NIL money.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:54 pm to N2daWild
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Frey might be better than anything in the portal.
Frey is definitely better than anything in the portal. The portal doesn't have the talent it has had in years past.
I came across a short youtube clip of Musso explaining what LSU needs to be looking to add in the portal and it is hard to get what isn't there. He mentioned getting a proven starter and power bat from a P4 school. Just doesn't really exist this year.
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:59 pm to N2daWild
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Frey might be better than anything in the portal
Agreed, and Jay clearly thinks so given his quotes on Frey. I could see them making it a tough choice for Frey.
Hopefully the same thing could be said for a borderline freshmen or two. Good news is all teams are dealing with the same crappy portal class.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 2:28 pm to hall59tiger
I can see the argument for Frey being 50/50. I still think he gets drafted and paid a lot of money but he could stay and make a lot here too based on the limited amount we’ve spent in the portal
Thus far
Thus far
Posted on 7/7/25 at 3:37 pm to Datsmoneydude
to empty the baseball collective prior to July 1 LSU would have had to make a deal with Frey prior to revenue sharing kicking in
Posted on 7/7/25 at 3:54 pm to nicholastiger
The money doesn't have to come from the collective. NIL will still be a thing even with the revenue sharing. They are sperate avenues for the players to get paid. NIL will now just have to go through an independent clearing house to be reviewed to make sure they deal is a fair market deal and it isn't an absurd payment for one appearance just to get a specific kid to campus.
At least that is how I understand it will be now. Someone can correct me if I am wrong.
At least that is how I understand it will be now. Someone can correct me if I am wrong.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 3:57 pm to BayTiger13
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NIL will now just have to go through an independent clearing house to be reviewed to make sure they deal is a fair market deal
This leans more toward established college players, IMO. We'll see how it works out in practice, but it could be another thing that keeps fringe guys in college a little longer.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 3:57 pm to BayTiger13
Speaking of NIL funds, does anyone here have any idea of where are baseball NIL fund actually ranks? You see a lot of CBB commentators throwing around this idea that we spend the most on players but is there actually any evidence of that?
Posted on 7/7/25 at 4:02 pm to Datsmoneydude
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I can see the argument for Frey being 50/50
Especially when you consider just how much money is getting thrown around
I don't think most realize the general and/or specifics some of these kids are getting, not even high profile
Given Jay's statements on Frey, I don't think his draft slot will significantly affect his decision, b/c NIL likely will match. And this would help explain some of the others decision making along with our portal activity.
And that doesn't even touch the possibility of Jones returning. I'm sure both sides would be satisfied with his decision to go pro, but what if he wants to come back?
Posted on 7/7/25 at 4:03 pm to hall59tiger
Can’t speak to NIL, but Moscona (I know I know) mentioned that he has it on good authority that LSU plans to allot 2% of the $20.5 million annual revenue share to baseball.
That comes out to $410,000 to be divided amongst the team. If using 34 players that comes out to an average of about $12,000 per player per year if divided evenly (which I doubt it will).
Men’s basketball will benefit the most per player (13) from revenue share. I calculated that each member of the men’s basketball team will get approx. $235,000 each if divided evenly (which I doubt it will).
That comes out to $410,000 to be divided amongst the team. If using 34 players that comes out to an average of about $12,000 per player per year if divided evenly (which I doubt it will).
Men’s basketball will benefit the most per player (13) from revenue share. I calculated that each member of the men’s basketball team will get approx. $235,000 each if divided evenly (which I doubt it will).
Posted on 7/7/25 at 4:11 pm to wahoocs
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And that doesn't even touch the possibility of Jones returning. I'm sure both sides would be satisfied with his decision to go pro, but what if he wants to come back?
If Jones wants to come back, you make it work for him to come back. Same with Frey.
And if they both want back and you can make it happen, make it happen.
I think it's pie in the sky to hope they both do, but you do what it takes to make it happen.
The argument against would be that it could be punting on years beyond 2026 because you'd have to sacrifice roster spots for multi year players and give them to one year players. I don't think it's always the case that you should bring guys back, but I think it's the case for those two.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 4:13 pm to SoloTiger
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Can’t speak to NIL, but Moscona (I know I know) mentioned that he has it on good authority that LSU plans to allot 2% of the $20.5 million annual revenue share to baseball.
That comes out to $410,000 to be divided amongst the team. If using 34 players that comes out to an average of about $12,000 per player per year if divided evenly (which I doubt it will).
One thing to consider is that NIL had been used by a lot of schools (I assume LSU among them, though I don't know for sure) to make up the scholarship gap. Even if guys weren't getting big deals, they were getting enough to not have to pay for school.
Now with the scholarship increase, and the rev share, NIL will stretch farther. Probably.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 4:14 pm to wahoocs
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I don't think most realize the general and/or specifics some of these kids are getting, not even high profile
I'm on the opposite end of this comment. I think most people think baseball players get a hell of a lot more than what they actually do.
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Given Jay's statements on Frey, I don't think his draft slot will significantly affect his decision, b/c NIL likely will match. And this would help explain some of the others decision making along with our portal activity.
I think it is possible for Frey to get over 600K in the draft and I would find it very hard to believe NIL is matching anything close to that in baseball.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 4:44 pm to BayTiger13
We seem to all agree on what Frey will get offered in the draft. We just seem to disagree on LSU's ability to make returning make sense at that price point.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 4:47 pm to BayTiger13
How much does he lose in taxes and in payment to his agent?
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 7/7/25 at 4:52 pm to Carolhdg
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How much does he lose in taxes and in payment to his agent?
This is immaterial to the discussion. There are taxes and likely agent fees on NIL payments.
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