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re: Lindsey Scott turned down Harvard to play at LSU...
Posted on 1/31/16 at 7:26 pm to geauxpurple
Posted on 1/31/16 at 7:26 pm to geauxpurple
Can someone provide a link showing he was accepted at Harvard?
I have never seen this .
Unless he was accepted there, this theme is purely hypothetical...
I have never seen this .
Unless he was accepted there, this theme is purely hypothetical...
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Posted on 1/31/16 at 7:41 pm to 12Pence
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He will be taken care of in Louisiana all his life
That's such bullshite. It's not even a good retort compared to a Harvard degree.
It really is retarded
Posted on 1/31/16 at 7:51 pm to Jacuzzitub
We are the Harvard of SW Louisiana.
Posted on 1/31/16 at 7:52 pm to mule74
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They do give scholarships. They just call them grant and aid. I know the current starting running back at Cornnel and he doesn't pay a dime to go to school. Saying they don't give scholarships allows them to pretend like they are above the fray.
Just out of curiosity, what's his families situation like? Are both parents employed? Did he go to HS in Louisiana?
Posted on 1/31/16 at 7:53 pm to Jacuzzitub
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But I think it's undeniable that Harvard would've been the safer option for Scott.
His dream is to play in the NFL. Harvard is not going to get him there. If that dream is not realized he still has time in his life to work on that too.
Posted on 1/31/16 at 7:57 pm to nofear67
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So you make a false statement and want others to provide a link?
If I'm wrong, show me. I've been wrong before and if you show me the facts I'll change my tune, it's pretty simple.
I played around with the calculator on the Harvard admissions site. I put in that he was a graduate of a LA highschool with a total family income of 100,000 and a family of four. I'll admit I don't know what Scott's family situation is outside of his father, but that seems like pretty average numbers for a family.
With those numbers, the cost of attending Harvard is estimated to be $9,600 a year. That is far from the hundreds of thousands of dollars I was thinking, but also far greater than the $0 his family will owe LSU. And that's not considering the opportunity cost he would leave by not playing college football at the highest level. This is and always has been a decision by his family to get him in the best spot to continue his career as a student and football player simultaneously. They decided LSU gave him the best shot.
Posted on 1/31/16 at 8:00 pm to nofear67
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Your argument is faulty. He can still get into Harvard as long as his academic index is above 176. Additionally, you do not understand how financing an Ivy league works. Most do not graduate in debt.
I was going off the full cost of attendance, which is around $60,000 a year. You are right in that the school offers much more financial aid than I was anticipating.
What is an academic index and how is it measured?
ETA: I found an informative article on the subject
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The Academic Index, or AI, is a combination of a student’s class rank and SAT scores typically calculated for seniors. Every prospective Ivy League student is assigned a number, which ranges from 60 to 240—a perfect score. The AI is divided into three categories. While the first two reflect SAT I and SAT II scores, the third is a combination of class rank and GPA adjusted on the same 20 to 80 scale to round out the score. Although the league does not disclose its data, the New York Times estimated that the average student at an Ivy League institution has an AI around 220, with Harvard, Yale, and Princeton boasting slightly higher averages than their other Ancient Eight counterparts.
Much more constraining are the academic standards of the member institutions. The Ivy League has set a minimum AI of 176 for any student-athlete offered admission, corresponding roughly to a 3.0 GPA and an 1140 out of 1600 on the SAT I. However, each team’s AI must remain within one standard deviation (estimated to be between 12-16 points) of the average AI for the entire student body. Given that no Ivy League institution has an average AI below 200, no athletic program in the Ancient Eight approaches that 176 threshold.
Once a coach decides on a player, there is no guarantee that the admissions office will offer a spot to the recruit. Coaches can provide verbal commitments to their recruits but ultimately must rely on relationships developed with the admissions office to secure a player’s spot.
This post was edited on 1/31/16 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 1/31/16 at 8:02 pm to Captain Crown
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Is it bullshite? I just said he will be taken care of in state, nothing about Harvard.
So you really believe every kid that plays football at Lsu is taken care of in Louisiana for life?
Posted on 1/31/16 at 8:10 pm to Jacuzzitub
Final 2 were Maryland and LSU but he turned down Harvard. Makes sense.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 6:56 am to nitwit
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Can someone provide a link showing he was accepted at Harvard?
I have never seen this .
Unless he was accepted there, this theme is purely hypothetical...
You are correct that it is probably hypothetical but if Harvard is interested that typically means you are accepted should you care to attend. Unfortunately, most kids from the South do not care to attend.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 7:08 am to nofear67
That's not true according to an article I linked above. A coach can offer a recruit a verbal commitment on the team, but it does not mean the admissions office will accept the student. Student athletes who are granted admission enroll at Harvard at a much higher rate (over 90%) than the general student population.
My guess is that Scott was verbally offered a spot to play football at Harvard, but never actually applied as he has been set on playing D-1 football for a while. Maryland is the school he turned down.
My guess is that Scott was verbally offered a spot to play football at Harvard, but never actually applied as he has been set on playing D-1 football for a while. Maryland is the school he turned down.
This post was edited on 2/1/16 at 7:09 am
Posted on 2/1/16 at 7:31 am to Jacuzzitub
An undergraduate degree from Harvard is not the panacea that you seem to think it is.
And what do you mean that "Les Miles and Cam Cameron better do right by this young man"? He'll get an opportunity to compete. Everything he gets besides that he'll have to earn, just like every other "young man". Who has Les and Cam not "done right by" in the past to make you say this?
And what do you mean that "Les Miles and Cam Cameron better do right by this young man"? He'll get an opportunity to compete. Everything he gets besides that he'll have to earn, just like every other "young man". Who has Les and Cam not "done right by" in the past to make you say this?
Posted on 2/1/16 at 8:32 am to tlsu15
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That's not true according to an article I linked above. A coach can offer a recruit a verbal commitment on the team, but it does not mean the admissions office will accept the student.
I understand what the article said but I am telling you if a coach wants an athlete that qualifies he is typically going to get him/her. First, he won't recruit one that doesn't meet the admissions "true" minimum.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 8:43 am to nofear67
Nofear,
Unless accepted under Harvard's admission standards, this is all just spit balling.
I have never seen anything that tells me he has !) applied; 2) been accepted or 3) been offered by the athletic department there.
These aren't mere formalities.
If there is a link showing this, fine, but at this point, it looks like just another Rant Myth.
Unless accepted under Harvard's admission standards, this is all just spit balling.
I have never seen anything that tells me he has !) applied; 2) been accepted or 3) been offered by the athletic department there.
These aren't mere formalities.
If there is a link showing this, fine, but at this point, it looks like just another Rant Myth.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 8:45 am to tlsu15
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He can make very good opportunities for himself coming out of LSU, and not be thousands (and potentially hundreds of thousands) of dollars in debt when he's done.
That's an ignorant statement. With Harvard's massive endowment and stringent academic requirements, most students pay nothing to attend Harvard.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 9:08 am to Jacuzzitub
It depends on what kind of career the kid wants. If he wants to be a lawyer or career politician, or leave Louisiana for good, then harvard is probably the way to go. But if he wants to stay local, teach or coach, open up a local business, etc, then his LSU connections will be better than anything he gets at Harvard.
I know a kid that turned down ivy league to play at Nichols. Cant say i agree with that one, but that was his rationale as well. Wanted to be a HS coach/teacher and stay in LA. Probably would have still come out of school with quite a bit of debt which doesnt make sense for a high school teacher.
I know a kid that turned down ivy league to play at Nichols. Cant say i agree with that one, but that was his rationale as well. Wanted to be a HS coach/teacher and stay in LA. Probably would have still come out of school with quite a bit of debt which doesnt make sense for a high school teacher.
This post was edited on 2/1/16 at 9:23 am
Posted on 2/1/16 at 9:12 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
So the only career fields that a Harvard education would benefit him is a lawyer or a politician?
Whole lotta dumb on this topic on this board.
Whole lotta dumb on this topic on this board.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 9:13 am to lsuhunt555
No, thats just an example, dumbass.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 9:37 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
Dont get pissy with me, you're the one that made that dumb-arse statement. There is one avenue in life that LSU is better than Harvard, and thats putting guys into the NFL...that's it. Stop being delusional.
Posted on 2/1/16 at 9:41 am to Jacuzzitub
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But if football doesn't work out, will he regret this decision?
If he aces everything at LSU, he can get into Harvard for grad school, baw. But, he's a football player, first and a smart kid second.
We should all be so lucky.
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