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re: Layton garnett to lsu
Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:18 pm to TIGERsinceCONCEPTION
Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:18 pm to TIGERsinceCONCEPTION
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:20 pm to slackster
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It creates an unfair advantage for LSU from a recruiting standpoint.
I understand one side of it. But you're telling me that Henry Shortess couldn't accept TOPS because he walked onto the basketball team? (Obviously on scholarship now, but just using him as an example)
Seems like that's a bunch of BS to make someone decline accept an academic scholarship because they want to play a sport.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:34 pm to dirtytigers
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I have multiple friends that play baseball at D1 colleges in La and their scholarships from the schools is what is left after TOPS... Is this a new rule or does in only apply to football?
There is no rule that you cannot play a sport and be on TOPS.
There is a rule in place for football where if a player receives other types of aid and appears in a varsity game he counts against the football scholarship numbers anyway despite not being on a football scholarship. The rules are different after a player's second year in school, but basically if Garnett plays as a freshman or sophomore he might as well have been on a football scholarship because he'll count as one.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:41 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I think its just for football. I've always thought you can't use any other scholarship for football because of Bear Bryant sneaking around schollie limits by giving kids tennis scholarships to play football.
I'm not saying your wrong, but the two scenarios aren't even remotely similar. TOPS is an academic scholarship, if he plays football he will still be going to school. Giving someone a tennis scholarship that they will never use for that purpose is dishonest and shady.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:41 pm to Chrisb6586
Good deal, if he has that West Monroe work hard mentality, which i think he does, look for him in the rotation sooner rather than later>
Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:42 pm to MLCLyons
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I'm not saying your wrong, but the two scenarios aren't even remotely similar. TOPS is an academic scholarship, if he plays football he will still be going to school. Giving someone a tennis scholarship that they will never use for that purpose is dishonest and shady.
They're both scholarships. I just feel like we'd have 1 or 2 TOPS kids on the football team every couple of years if you could use it.
Bear also gave academic schollies to kids instead of football ones. So that precedent is there as well.
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:44 pm to BIWO
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But you're telling me that Henry Shortess couldn't accept TOPS because he walked onto the basketball team?
No, its just for football I believe.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:50 pm to TheCaterpillar
Congrats!
Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:52 pm to deuce985
Maybe he will be a linebacker version of Jacob Hester. Underrated, high motor, great instincts and hell bent on succeeding. Never takes a play off, shows up everyday with all heart.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:53 pm to MLCLyons
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I'm not saying your wrong, but the two scenarios aren't even remotely similar. TOPS is an academic scholarship, if he plays football he will still be going to school. Giving someone a tennis scholarship that they will never use for that purpose is dishonest and shady.
NCAA Bylaw 15.5.1.2 Football or Basketball, Varsity Competition
In football or basketball, a student-athlete who was recruited (see Bylaw 15.02.8) by the awarding
institution and who receives institutional financial aid (as set forth in Bylaw15.02.4.1) granted without
regard in any degree to athletics ability does not have to be counted until the student-athlete engages in
varsity intercollegiate competition (as opposed to freshman, B-team, subvarsity, intramural or club
competition) in those sports.
If a player (1) in a head-count sport (where players receive full scholarships only) (2) who was recruited (preferred walk-on), (3) receives institutional financial aid, and (4) plays in a varsity game, that player counts against scholarship numbers. The rule only applies if all four of those elements are met.
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:56 pm to studentsect
Is TOPS considered institutional financial aid?
Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:57 pm to studentsect
Ah ok so its basketball too.
I knew baseball got helped by TOPS. Vanderbilt baseball has a crazy advantage with their academic scholarships.
I knew baseball got helped by TOPS. Vanderbilt baseball has a crazy advantage with their academic scholarships.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:59 pm to Chrisb6586
Welcome to Tiger Nation Layton! 
Posted on 2/2/16 at 3:59 pm to ProjectP2294
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Is TOPS considered institutional financial aid?
Not sure. I've been working under the assumption that it was but now that I think about it I'm not sure. Since it is state-based it might not be.
Edit:
I looked into it and I think TOPS probably would not be considered institutional financial aid since it is from a government source and the school plays no role in determining recipients or amounts, but I'm still not sure.
Link to bylaws:
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Relevant provisions are 15.02.4 and 15.5.1
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 2/2/16 at 4:04 pm to studentsect
Atta boy Layton.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 4:16 pm to TheCaterpillar
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No, its just for football I believe.
What's the difference?
Posted on 2/2/16 at 4:34 pm to BIWO
Congrats Layton!!!!!
Posted on 2/2/16 at 4:55 pm to texastigerr
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Maybe he will be a linebacker version of Jacob Hester. Underrated, high motor, great instincts and hell bent on succeeding. Never takes a play off, shows up everyday with all heart.
I think that checks most of the cliche boxes. We also would have accepted "brings his lunch pale" or "a real coach on the field"
Posted on 2/2/16 at 5:07 pm to BIWO
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What's the difference?
Bear Bryant's cheating arse
Posted on 2/2/16 at 5:43 pm to BIWO
Looks more like a DL man vs LBer to me. Where does Aranda project him????
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