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re: Is Sampson better out of high school than Malichi Dupre and/or T Marshall
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:33 pm to mikertheTIGER
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:33 pm to mikertheTIGER
He's closer to high school Terrace Marshall than high school Malachi Dupree. Both were solid Tigers, so here's hoping he blocks like Dupre and catches like Marshall. :)
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:37 pm to WM_Tiger
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Dupree was a stud
Huge reach here. He got his lofty high school raitng on his potential basically. He was 6'3 190 with a 42" vertical coming out of high school, but at Curtis never actually did much in that offense because they didnt throw it. Unfortunately he just didnt live up to the billing here and never developed into more than a pretty good, but not great WR. His hands were always a bit of a issue and I think he played "afraid" a bit too much - he was not a contested ball catcher much and thats exactly what he should have been with his height and vertical leap. Thats what could have turned him into a high end draft pick but he just rarely ever showed that here. Blame the offense under Miles all you want, plenty of WRs got drafted well before the 7th round during Miles' tenure here though.
One of Dupre's biggest mistakes was declaring after his junior year where he still wasnt able to put up much of a season. He had the big bowl game against Louisville and thought that would get him drafted pretty high, and it didnt.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:58 pm to cfish140
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He had several big games for us in his career. The Louisville bowl game, 2015 florida, and 2014 bama off the top of my head
One of these is not like the others.
The Louisville and Florida games were his best games of his career, and his numbers are great in those games.
The Alabama game (he had one catch) was like most of the other games during his career at LSU… jammed at the line or rode out bounds five yards from the line on way too many plays.
He was pretty much a bust.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 8/1/22 at 1:00 pm to mikertheTIGER
He's more Marshall than Dupre. Dupre ultimately just didn't really move well enough to be a real threat at receiver in the NFL.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 1:15 pm to Lester Earl
In some facets, I agree. However, Sampson has much better speed.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 1:22 pm to bengalmd
Most of these 4-5 star guys will never be caught from behind in high school.
So I like to look at his pull-away speed. It looks good, not great. Looks like a true 4.5ish guy. Could get faster for sure as he ages
So I like to look at his pull-away speed. It looks good, not great. Looks like a true 4.5ish guy. Could get faster for sure as he ages
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 8/1/22 at 1:22 pm to WM_Tiger
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Dupree was a stud. We forget that he came out of a system that passed very little in HS and was still a consensus 5*. Had he been at LSU a few years later versus the Miles era then he’s a 1st round pick.
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Dupree suffer a concussion very early in his first season in the NFL and was never the same?
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:28 pm to GumboPot
Yea he got drilled while trying to make the Packers team
Posted on 8/1/22 at 4:15 pm to cfish140
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Dupre may not have lived up to his 5 star billing but y’all are acting like he was some scrub that barely got on the field. He had several big games for us in his career. The Louisville bowl game, 2015 florida, and 2014 bama off the top of my head
He was talented and certainly looked the part. Not the only statistically underachieving WR in LSU’s history that wishes they would have had the opportunities that these skill guys at LSU now have. During Jordan Jefferson era we would be lucky if we had 100 yards passing.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 5:17 pm to rmnldr
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Dupre had way more potential than what he showed at LSU. Went from a run heavy offense in high school to another in college and wasn’t able to develop his skills.
OBJ, Jarvis and a dozen other LSU/NFL receivers managed to develop their skills.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 5:36 pm to mpwilging
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Dupree played soft imho
That was the problem. A lack of competitiveness.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 5:39 pm to mikertheTIGER
I was better than Malachi out of high school. Shorter, fatter, and miles slower but at least I could catch a bubble screen.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 7:20 pm to Jack Daniel
He took that absolutely vicious hit in the preseason of his rookie year and never got another chance
Posted on 8/1/22 at 9:14 pm to WM_Tiger
Like Beckham and Landry didn’t blossom under miles?.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 9:18 pm to Lester Earl
His speed must be deceiving you because he ran a 4.35 at LSU last year. And yes...I realize that's not an NFL combine 4.35. It is an official LSU camp time though.
He's faster than Marshall, Dupre, and Randle.
He's faster than Marshall, Dupre, and Randle.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 9:27 pm to SoloTiger
He ran a 4.35 at Catholic high’s make shift pro day(great idea by the way) with the coaches squeezing the handheld watch.
Hand times are significantly faster as is, and so much more so when the timer has rooting interest.
The guy is legitimately fast but he isn’t running 4.35 on film.
Hand times are significantly faster as is, and so much more so when the timer has rooting interest.
The guy is legitimately fast but he isn’t running 4.35 on film.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:11 pm to Lester Earl
I think you are correct. It was at Catholic and not LSU where he ran the “official” 4.35.
He looks faster than 4.5 on film to me.
Will be interested to see a more standardized time on him.
He looks faster than 4.5 on film to me.
Will be interested to see a more standardized time on him.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 1:58 am to Forever
I don’t think Sampson is on the level of Marshall when it comes to physicality, even at the same age. His WR skills are just as good, maybe better but imo he’ll need to develop a little before really getting on the field, regularly.
It’s all about their will to be really good players. If he’s got what it takes then he’ll be just as good as any other big WR we’ve had but if not or he’s slow to develop that tenacity then he won’t. That goes for any other player, not only Sampson.
He’s got all the natural talent in the world to be as good as he wants to be. Some of these offensive guys just don’t have that physical nature it takes and some do. It’s usually instilled in the defensive guys. That’s why I like to see these WRs blocking on film. You can see that nasty attitude in them then. He may have that but I just haven’t seen him in person or know him or seen him have that nasty attitude on film. Like I said he may have it already? Obviously he’s got talent because everyone wants him and the recruiting sites love him so no doubt he’s very talented and LSU would be lucky to have him.
It’s all about their will to be really good players. If he’s got what it takes then he’ll be just as good as any other big WR we’ve had but if not or he’s slow to develop that tenacity then he won’t. That goes for any other player, not only Sampson.
He’s got all the natural talent in the world to be as good as he wants to be. Some of these offensive guys just don’t have that physical nature it takes and some do. It’s usually instilled in the defensive guys. That’s why I like to see these WRs blocking on film. You can see that nasty attitude in them then. He may have that but I just haven’t seen him in person or know him or seen him have that nasty attitude on film. Like I said he may have it already? Obviously he’s got talent because everyone wants him and the recruiting sites love him so no doubt he’s very talented and LSU would be lucky to have him.
Posted on 8/2/22 at 2:31 pm to deuce985
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The reality is Dupre was a bust.
Les miles got mad once at yall calling players flops
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