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re: I'll Admit it - I Have No Idea How Basketball Recruiting Works Anymore
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:49 pm to The Pirate King
Posted on 5/12/26 at 5:49 pm to The Pirate King
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euros under 30 not yet ready for the NBA
If they are not ready by 24 they will never be...
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Supposedly the thought is this is the last cycle of that being allowed with the new 5-year clock rules.
That is what I am hoping.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:06 pm to SpqrTiger
quote:This is where I am as well. If we're going to compete, let's compete.
If the NCAA doesn't care... why should we? Just put a winner on the court.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 6:41 pm to RummelTiger
Same as it always did. Who pays the most gets the best players. But now you can sign pro players from overseas that have never started college.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:03 pm to RummelTiger
the way I understand it, in the most basic laymen terms, is if you have not signed an NBA contract, you are free game to be recruited. For domestic players, you still have to be within 5 years of your HS graduation window.
Euros see NCAA as an option now, because they have the opportunity to make more money and gain NBA exposure. These players have agents, so there is some formal shopping going on all around.
Euros see NCAA as an option now, because they have the opportunity to make more money and gain NBA exposure. These players have agents, so there is some formal shopping going on all around.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:22 pm to RummelTiger
you make a damn strong offer
wait to see if they accept it
hope the wrong hands don't get it
watch the talking heads of TV get razzled about it.
wait to see if they accept it
hope the wrong hands don't get it
watch the talking heads of TV get razzled about it.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:44 pm to RummelTiger
Apparently, LSU has access to their own rev-share (revenue from tv contracts,etc shared amongst all SEC teams). The amount available for football is $20.5M annually in June. (IIRC, the number for basketball is $10M or $15M.) I wanna say that rev share has to be spent before being allowed to use NIL.
For supplemental NIL, LSU uses a sports agency that has aggregated a gazillion companies that are willing to pay for an athlete's endorsement. The packages can be diversified. For example, if LSU wants to offer a prospect $1M NIL package, he might get the bulk of it from say, Raising Cane's and some car dealership, but the rest might be comprised of 10 smaller businesses that the athlete also has an minor obligation to represent in some way. All NIL deals have to be approved by some regulatory clearing house
If I'm not mistaken, the new rev share rules effectively outlawed the use of collectives (where fan or alumni or or business donations could be be put in a money pool to pay out to prospects they want.) I believe colletives & TAF funds now have to be used on ancillary projects, like say, stadium upgrades, arena renovations, etc.
LSU can use up all of their annual $20.5M rev share in one class, and if they want more prospects the same year, they can basically give an I.O.U. to a signee willing to wait a few months until June when LSU gets access to another $20.5M. I think LSU dipped into this upcoming rev share funds to sign a lot of their $40M+ portal class.
That's my understanding. ButI could be wrong in parts.
For supplemental NIL, LSU uses a sports agency that has aggregated a gazillion companies that are willing to pay for an athlete's endorsement. The packages can be diversified. For example, if LSU wants to offer a prospect $1M NIL package, he might get the bulk of it from say, Raising Cane's and some car dealership, but the rest might be comprised of 10 smaller businesses that the athlete also has an minor obligation to represent in some way. All NIL deals have to be approved by some regulatory clearing house
If I'm not mistaken, the new rev share rules effectively outlawed the use of collectives (where fan or alumni or or business donations could be be put in a money pool to pay out to prospects they want.) I believe colletives & TAF funds now have to be used on ancillary projects, like say, stadium upgrades, arena renovations, etc.
LSU can use up all of their annual $20.5M rev share in one class, and if they want more prospects the same year, they can basically give an I.O.U. to a signee willing to wait a few months until June when LSU gets access to another $20.5M. I think LSU dipped into this upcoming rev share funds to sign a lot of their $40M+ portal class.
That's my understanding. ButI could be wrong in parts.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 7:53 pm to Lester Earl
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Euros see NCAA as an option now, because they have the opportunity to make more money and gain NBA exposure. These players have agents, so there is some formal shopping going on all around.
This.
The market for major conference college basketball can be as or nearly as lucrative as foreign pro leagues.
Posted on 5/12/26 at 8:48 pm to RummelTiger
This is what all of the non revenue college sports have been doing. Tennis, men's college soccer etc. Nobody was paying attention to it
This post was edited on 5/12/26 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 5/12/26 at 9:26 pm to Salmon
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We are about to have a college roster full of grown Euro pros
I get the strategy but it’s a new one but makes a ton of sense. Waiting for baseball to start adopting this model as well in certain ways.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 2:39 am to LSUFreek
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Apparently, LSU has access to their own rev-share (revenue from tv contracts,etc shared amongst all SEC teams). The amount available for football is $20.5M annually in June. (IIRC, the number for basketball is $10M or $15M.) I wanna say that rev share has to be spent before being allowed to use NIL.
That'd be crazy if true. It forces college athletic departments to send that $20.5M to students before paying a surplus to academic side (if that even still happens). It used to be that LSU athletic dept gave the University millions each year. I'm guessing that stopped happening.
This post was edited on 5/13/26 at 9:48 am
Posted on 5/13/26 at 2:50 am to BiggaGeauxrilla
quote:I have to think we're going to tap into what Bethune Cookman is doing. They're SWAC, and per Google, they have 11 players from other countries (Caribbean and Central America). When they beat LSU in a midweek game, seemed like everyone's last name was Hispanic. They also beat Florida in a midweek game too.quote:
We are about to have a college roster full of grown Euro pros
I get the strategy but it’s a new one but makes a ton of sense. Waiting for baseball to start adopting this model as well in certain ways.
LSU has to have way more resources than they do; I think they just happened to get in on it early.
The standard of living in a lot of those countries is way low, and "a little" money can go a long way there. And those countries love baseball and produce some great players.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 6:41 am to Scoob
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I have to think we're going to tap into what Bethune Cookman is doing. They're SWAC, and per Google, they have 11 players from other countries (Caribbean and Central America). When they beat LSU in a midweek game, seemed like everyone's last name was Hispanic. They also beat Florida in a midweek game too.
We not comparing the competition in the SWAC to the SEC…
Posted on 5/13/26 at 1:29 pm to chalmetteowl
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I have to think we're going to tap into what Bethune Cookman is doing. They're SWAC, and per Google, they have 11 players from other countries (Caribbean and Central America). When they beat LSU in a midweek game, seemed like everyone's last name was Hispanic. They also beat Florida in a midweek game too.
We not comparing the competition in the SWAC to the SEC…
They're 35-17 overall, lead the SWAC 21-6, and are going to be in someone's regional.
You don't normally see colleges with Central American or Caribbean players, I think they usually head to the minors. Remember their economies, minor league pay is still a good deal for them. But with NIL, this may become an option.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 1:33 pm to Scoob
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I have to think we're going to tap into what Bethune Cookman is doing.
Recruiting guys from Florida JUCOs that also played HS ball in the US but just happen to have been born in other countries?
What they're doing is functionally no different than what any other school does. They're not going into other countries to get guys.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 3:22 pm to Scoob
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They're 35-17 overall, lead the SWAC 21-6, and are going to be in someone's regional.
That’s cute. What they do in the SWAC against the bottom-feeders of D1 has little in common with what we need to do to have MLB talent and face MLB talent every week.
Posted on 5/13/26 at 8:28 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:I'd venture to say there's a shite-ton of talent in Central America and the Caribbean. If you google it, about a quarter of the players in MLB come from outside the US.
That’s cute. What they do in the SWAC against the bottom-feeders of D1 has little in common with what we need to do to have MLB talent and face MLB talent every week.
Why are you opposed to looking at guys from the Dominican Republic, Venezuela etc? We might not get the top tier (we usually don't with high school players either), but the next tier is largely untapped and pretty damn good. Or, is it because a SWAC team is doing it, we're "too good" to stoop to that level?
Me, I don't care where the guys come from, as long as they can play. It's way past the point of pretending these guys worry about classes.
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