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re: CB Trey Amos in portal

Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:55 am to
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
14519 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:55 am to
I think the original intentions of NIL were solid. Let the kids make some money for autographs and do some local commercials.

If you're a football player in the state of Louisiana you could potentially get; NIL, TOPS, and pell grant.

I had a kid I coach get a full ride to McNeese years ago. He was getting 5,000 a semester. He was on full football, TOPS 4.0 and over 25 on the ACT, and single mom low income pell grant.
This post was edited on 5/2/23 at 10:15 am
Posted by GoldenAge
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1593 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:59 am to
Well, seeing as there’s no cap on income in any other profession, I don’t think there should be one here.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
2878 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 10:05 am to
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Well, seeing as there’s no cap on income in any other profession, I don’t think there should be one here.


Here’s the rub, it’s not professional sports. Pull the tax exemptions from university athletics. Then 1099 each athlete that receives COA/NIL money and let them be like the rest of us who pay taxes.
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
3734 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 10:26 am to
quote:

he Cajuns can’t compete with the $300k offers that he’s receiving from the likes of LSU, Bama and Florida.


Not a knock on ULL, but the school and others similarly situated weren’t really competing before NIL became a thing.

Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 10:30 am to
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Then 1099 each athlete that receives COA/NIL money and let them be like the rest of us who pay taxes.


Bruh.
Posted by chew4219
Member since Sep 2009
2878 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 10:34 am to
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Not a knock on ULL, but the school and others similarly situated weren’t really competing before NIL became a thing.


I understand what you are saying. But the reality is only about 10 schools compete for a national championship anyway.

I think the Cajuns compete, especially lately. That doesn’t mean there is national title holes like there is at LSU. But a top 25 ranking at the end of the season is completely possible. Since it’s already been done twice in the last 5 years.
Posted by GoldenAge
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2014
1593 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 10:42 am to
The school is not profiting from NIL deals, so wanting to retract tax exemptions because students at the school are getting paid is illogical. Why do this now, why not make this move when kids on scholastic scholarships were working side jobs?
Athletes receiving NIL deals are not exempt from paying taxes on the income, so I'm not sure what you're thinking would change by issuing them a 1099...
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84096 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 2:47 pm to
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You mean above and beyond the $50-$100k education they receive. Above the COA stipend that is roughly $4-5k/month. Hmm I was a 2 sport collegiate athlete and got tuition and a per diem on road trips. Yeah NIL and the portal have done wonders for collegiate sports.



Give me one good reason why an American citizen should not be able to monetize his unique skills and talents to whatever level he is capable of earning? Whether the sport is better or causes you or me to wish for the old days or not is irrelevant. Give me one good reason why an athlete with very rare and in-demand skills should not be able to monetize said skills to whatever degree he is able to negotiate? You have the floor, Sir.

Posted by OGTiger
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2005
2334 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 3:47 pm to
Have no clue how good he is. There must be something there for the teams that have offered him. However, he’s never even made as much as honorable mention all conference in his entire time at ULL. Don’t know what’s up with that.
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
52308 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 3:58 pm to
I believe that programs feel he is poised for a breakthrough season.
Posted by BillF
New York, New York
Member since Jan 2006
5729 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 3:59 pm to
Players get cost of attendance, but it's absolutely nowhere near $4-$5 thousand a month. Per year, yes, but not per month.

Also, I doubt seriously this kid is being offered $300,000 by all these schools.
Posted by Mr Clean
Power I-Formation
Member since Aug 2006
52308 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 4:00 pm to
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This dude did everything for catholic high new Iberia. Granted they still sucked


When he was a senior, they won 50-20 at Westgate. You already know how good Westgate is.
Posted by specchaser
lafayette
Member since Feb 2008
2641 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 4:16 pm to
clearly his tape stood out with some of the offers he's reporting. Hope he heads 60 miles east, can't have too many homegrown CBs on one team. But LSU really needs to add a safety.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31931 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:24 pm to
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Give me one good reason why an athlete with very rare and in-demand skills should not be able to monetize said skills to whatever degree he is able to negotiate?


I’m as free market as you can get. To a fault.

But that requires me to believe that adults can enter willingly into agreements that can restrict what they are free to do.

The NCAA is a private organization. The member schools have joined willingly and agreed to honor their rules.

The student-athletes join willingly and agree to follow their rules.

Plenty of employers, clubs, organizations, religions, schools and other groups place restrictions on members. They are free to do as they choose and people are free to join - or not.

There are many other rules that can prevent someone with these rare and in-demand skills from playing college sports, from academic to behavioral. Should we get rid of all of them?

If the NCAA chooses NIL or pay-for-play model, then that’s fine. I don’t think they should be forced.

NCAA sports are successful because of the support and love people have for their alma mater. The value of these individual players is extremely overrated.

No professional minor league has ever been successful without subsidizing from its parent. There’s a reason for that.



Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284824 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 9:43 pm to
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The value of these individual players is extremely overrated.


Lol wut

There is no lsu without the players
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31931 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

Lol wut

There is no lsu without the players


If the XFL signed the top 200 high school players, and the remainder went to college, the XFL would still fail and college football would still be extremely popular.

College sports are popular because people love their alma maters and state schools.

Sports fans hate minor league sports, but love college sports. Why is that?

It’s the school, not the players.



Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284824 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 8:28 am to
Do you think lsu makes more money when they are good vs when they are not?

Furthermore do you think there would be a need for a 100k stadium if you swapped McNese St’s players with lsu?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31931 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:07 pm to
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Do you think lsu makes more money when they are good vs when they are not?

Furthermore do you think there would be a need for a 100k stadium if you swapped McNese St’s players with lsu?



I am not talking about LSU specifically, but college sports in general. In no way did I indicate that LSU would independently lower its level of talent.

Talent level is relative. If for some reason the top 10 percent of players no longer attended college, yet the remaining talent was distributed similarly to what it is now, there would be no effect on fan support, ratings or attendance.

There has never proven to be a market for minor league sports in America, except those subsidized by the parent league.

College sports are successful because of their relation to universities.

Gymnastics is a perfect example. College gymnastics is very subpar. It's a huge notch below elite gymnastics. Yet fans flock to watch college gymnastics, because they want to see their school.




Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
75952 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 3:20 pm to
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Gymnastics is a perfect example. College gymnastics is very subpar. It's a huge notch below elite gymnastics. Yet fans flock to watch college gymnastics, because they want to see their school.

At like 6-7 schools, multi time champ Oklahoma isn't one of them btw. In early 2000s when the team was worse LSU used to pull in a couple thousand maybe.
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 12:20 am to


Cry more bitch
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