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Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:15 pm to
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:15 pm to
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Didn’t Brennan end up a borderline top 100 guy?
#112
Posted by NattyTiger19
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

es he’s better than Nuss


He's a better runner but not a better QB than Nuss.
Posted by Dlab2013
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:18 pm to
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Didn’t Brennan end up a borderline top 100 guy?


152. #6 pro style
Posted by NattyTiger19
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:19 pm to
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These idiots really want a QB 100 spots lower than the top overall QB LMAO


Some people are not stargazers like you are.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:52 pm to
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He's a better runner but not a better QB than Nuss.
Do you have anything to back that up or are you just doubting Williams' ability to throw the ball because of his ethnicity?

It is really tough to make these claims when they play in HS.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 2:01 pm to
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Do you have anything to back that up or are you just doubting Williams' ability to throw the ball because of his ethnicity?

It is really tough to make these claims when they play in HS.

You just asked for the floodgates to open.

You have no one to blame but yourself.
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 2:25 pm to
People won't admit it but Brady leaving hurt
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 2:59 pm to
Where are Ryan Perrilloux and Jamarcus Russell on that list?

It's a bullshite list.
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10613 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:26 pm to
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Brady was not the offensive coordinator.
The OC is still here


It's amusing how many people want to dismiss this simple fact.

Just look at the last few years of QB recruiting under Ensminger. It hasn't been pretty.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32089 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

It is really tough to make these claims when they play in HS.


But yet, here you are.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 3:35 pm to
Nuss is a much more polished passer.
Posted by TexasTiger88
Madisonville
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:10 pm to
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Nuss is a much more polished passer


So you would rather him over Williams if we could get either or?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32089 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 4:43 pm to
Very few fans are qualified to watch film and scout players to project them at the next level.

I know that I suck at it. I've seen so many players in high school that are thought would be studs that failed.

But we know we are not qualified, so we often defer to people that are supposed to be qualified, like the recruiting services.

So when we see the film of a guy like Nussmeier, who is obviously very talented, we often defer to the experts who tell us that Williams is better.

He may be. He may not be. I'm certainly not qualified to say. LSU offered Nussmeier his freshman year and has been on him since. They also really like Williams.

Put me in the camp that would be happy with either, or both.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
24238 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:30 pm to
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Perrilloux?



He has to be cutting off the list AFTER Perriolloux because he listened to Moscona do this EXACT exercise a week ago and is now parroting it as his own.

Because of course RP was #2
Jamarcus was #5
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
15746 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 5:31 pm to
I agree and I know the biggest question with Williams is accuracy; however, going back and looking at his stats his sophomore year he was at 56% and I can't find JR stats so he may have done much better last season than what is perceived.

From ATVS:

quote:

The only question mark that arises with Williams is his accuracy, ending his sophomore year with a 56 percent completion percentage. Now, that doesn’t mean it’s all still on him, i.e. drops, forcing throws due to bad receivers, etc. His numbers from his junior season haven’t come in yet, and yes, he still is quite young so you can imagine those numbers can get better with more experience.

Posted by NattyTiger19
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Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 3/31/20 at 7:37 pm to
Go watch Williams' junior highlight video, then watch Nussmeier's junior highlight video, and it is obvious Nussmeier is the better QB.

He is not the better runner, as Williams wins in that department. Nonetheless, Nussmeier has quick feet and is very elusive in the pocket. As his pocket presence is probably his best attribute. As Nussmeier reminds me of Joe Burrow. While Williams reminds me of Jalen Hurts.

Not to mention, that Nussmeier passed for 38 touchdowns in his junior season with a 67 percent completion rate. While Williams passed for only 19 touchdowns in his junior season with a slightly less than 56 percent completion rate.

If Williams is actually better than Nussmeier, it isn't apparent from watching their respective junior highlight videos. Nonetheless, that's what I'm going by because that's all I have to go buy. Unless I just want to take the word of the recruiting services blindly and as all of the people that are downvoting me are doing.

When I watch highlight videos of prospects, most of the time I agree with the assessments of the recruiting services. However, I don't on this one.

Finally, last but not least, I'm not a humongous ignoramus like you. Hence, unlike you, I'm also not a racist.

By the way, I'm also by far not the only person on this forum that likes Nussmeier's highlight video more than they like Williams' highlight video, but most of those other posters haven't seen this thread.
Posted by NattyTiger19
Sugar Bowl
Member since Jan 2020
924 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 7:53 pm to
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People won't admit it but Brady leaving hurt


I doubt it. Williams spent four days at LSU in November. He knows who the QB coach and the OC is. Plus, he has maintained contact with Joe Burrow ever since that visit. Hence, I'm sure he knows the score.

In addition, on that November visit, Williams and his dad sat down with Steve Ensminger and Ed O and they laid out a plan for Williams that Williams' dad said was going to be hard for anyone else to beat.

Not to mention, Joe Brady barely had experience and Joe Brady's replacement, Scott Linehan, is astronomically far more experienced relative to Brady.

Now since that November visit and after QB Brock Vandagriff de-committed from Oklahoma and then committed to UGA, all of a sudden Williams started making it known that Oklahoma was his dream school. He previously kept that dream school info to himself when Brock Vandagriff was committed to Oklahoma. However, as soon as Vandagriff de-committed from Oklahoma and then subsequently committed to UGA, all of a sudden Williams started talking about how Oklahoma was always his dream school.



Posted by whoyodaddy
Ono Island
Member since Nov 2011
571 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:02 pm to
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LSU lost their offensive genius


In Burrow’s words, Ensminger was the most important link in the offensive coaching group. I would trust Burrow’s opinion.
Posted by NattyTiger19
Sugar Bowl
Member since Jan 2020
924 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:03 pm to
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Just look at the last few years of QB recruiting under Ensminger. It hasn't been pretty.


Well, since Ensminger became the QB coach and OC, he has recruited Peter Parrish, a DT 4 star QB, and then Max Johnson a 4-star pro-style QB and TJ Finley, a three-star pro-style QB.

Hence, it's too early to make a determination on any of those QBs since none of them have been in the system long enough to be ready to play yet.

Nonetheless, Ensminger did an outstanding job with Joe Burrow, which is why Joe Burrow and Joe Burrow's dad are always praising Ensminger.

And if we have a football season this year, we will soon find out what kind of job he is doing with Myles Brennan.

Hence, what hasn't been pretty for you? Specifically, what are you talking about?
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 8:12 pm
Posted by Nickelwindow
California
Member since Dec 2019
172 posts
Posted on 3/31/20 at 8:12 pm to
That’s the way they think 100 spots lower . That’s why Louisiana is 100 spots lower than all the states in the union . That’s how they think .
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